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SOLVED: WTH # 463 Bugatti Type 30 Coupé Aerodynamique by Kelsch for Capt Townsend
« on: February 21, 2016, 05:54:14 PM »
For one point, identify the approximate year, make, model, coachbuilder, and original owner of this aerodynamic coupe:
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Re: WTH # 463
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2016, 12:28:28 AM »
Up!

Do the Professionals recognize this one?
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Re: WTH # 463
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2016, 01:10:59 AM »
1925 Bugatti Type 38 Aéro-profilée by Kelsch, first owner Captain Townsend. I also found it as a 1923 Type 30, but I tend to believe the Bugatti Trust.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2016, 01:31:10 AM by Wendax »
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Re: WTH # 463
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2016, 09:04:51 AM »
Quote from: Wendax on February 26, 2016, 01:10:59 AM
1925 Bugatti Type 38 Aéro-profilée by Kelsch, first owner Captain Townsend. I also found it as a 1923 Type 30, but I tend to believe the Bugatti Trust.

Bugatti Trust make it hard to believe them, Album 05 Type 29/30 photo 096 shows the picture Wendax posted and Album 10 Type 38 photo 006A shows the original puzzle picture.

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Re: WTH # 463
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2016, 09:28:32 AM »
Wendax will get the point.  After doing some research, I believe this is a Type 30.

I have attached a painting/sketch of the front of the Bugatti Coupe by Kelsch.

On both T30 and T38 cars, there is a transverse metal bar in front of the bottom of the radiator grill.

On most T30 images I find, and the sketch of the Kelsch Bugatti, there are large round objects on each end of the metal bar (perhaps friction shocks?).

On most T38 images, the round objects are no longer attached to the bar, are reduced in size, and have been moved forward several inches.

Does this logic make sense?
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Re: WTH # 463
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 10:52:26 AM »
Point awarded to Wendax, marked as solved.
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Re: WTH # 463
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 10:53:56 AM »
Thank you!
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Re: SOLVED: WTH # 463 Bugatti Type 30 Coupé Aerodynamique by Kelsch for Capt Townsend
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2019, 04:38:06 PM »
I discovered this car in a photo - could this be the same car?
« Last Edit: July 18, 2019, 04:54:09 AM by grobmotorix »
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Re: SOLVED: WTH # 463 Bugatti Type 30 Coupé Aerodynamique by Kelsch for Capt Townsend
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2019, 06:39:33 PM »
Very similar indeed.
Just a bit different around the A-pillar; and it doesn't seem to have any door!
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Re: SOLVED: WTH # 463 Bugatti Type 30 Coupé Aerodynamique by Kelsch for Capt Townsend
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2019, 07:16:54 PM »
Look at Wendax´s photo - I see no door handle on the right side.

And there is only one step on the left side that serves as a minimalistic running board.

It was so narrow that there was no space next to the driver
- so I am quite sure there was only one door opening to the left side...
« Last Edit: July 17, 2019, 07:19:26 PM by grobmotorix »
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Re: SOLVED: WTH # 463 Bugatti Type 30 Coupé Aerodynamique by Kelsch for Capt Townsend
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2019, 04:31:48 AM »
Yes; it's unlikely there are 2 cars which are virtually identical!
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Re: SOLVED: WTH # 463 Bugatti Type 30 Coupé Aerodynamique by Kelsch for Capt Townsend
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2019, 12:42:40 PM »
Today I found this old scan on my HDD that was filed incorrectly as a Voisin - this also should be this car:
« Last Edit: July 19, 2019, 12:45:59 PM by grobmotorix »
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