Author Topic: JPG #185 Solved : 1924 Ravel 12hp Berline by Marius Mamy  (Read 1856 times)

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Re: PN #843
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2016, 10:02:06 AM »
yes, both chassis and coachbuilder
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Re: PN #843
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2016, 01:58:28 PM »
Gendron & Michelot (GM)?

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Re: PN #843
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2016, 02:10:30 PM »
no
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Re: PN #843
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2016, 02:16:59 PM »
Secqueville-Hoyau?

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Re: PN #843
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2016, 02:20:05 PM »
no
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Re: PN #843
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2016, 02:36:35 PM »
Ravel?

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Re: PN #843
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2016, 03:37:30 PM »
now we are getting somewhere. It's a Ravel chassis. Locked for you to find the coachbuilder and the year
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Re: PN #843
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2016, 04:56:36 PM »
1924 Ravel by Marius Mamy from Besançon.

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Re: PN #843
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2016, 11:53:45 PM »
That's very interesting. Carrosserie Mamy on its website claims they bodied the car in 1922.

However my picture comes from a 1926 French magazine claiming another coachbuilder from Besancon.  Now this other coachbuilder is more renowned. Should I declare this solved and feature both coachbuilders in the title?
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Re: PN #843
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2016, 03:59:05 AM »
They both bodied several Ravel, according to Beaulieu...(if the 2nd coachbuilder is from Doubs too ;) )
Mamy coachbuilt the sedans and 'the other' built the tourers.
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Re: PN #843
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2016, 08:39:15 AM »
I found the answer at the well known coach builders site.
One of the only two Ravels know to exist is a 1925 Ravel sedan belonging to the Schlumpf Collection, bodied by Monjardet: 26, Rue Bersot, Besançon, Doubs.
The tourer posted by Paul Jaray was bodied by Langutt in 1923.

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Re: PN #843
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2016, 08:41:14 AM »
Monjardet was mentioned as the coachbuilder of the puzzle car! So what should I do now?
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Re: PN #843
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2016, 10:53:21 AM »
Monjardet was mentioned as the coachbuilder of the puzzle car! So what should I do now?

I thought one of the editors would have given you some advice by now!

I'd say it was 99.9% certain that's a body built on the Weymann principle - maybe there are records to show whether Monjardet followed that path.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia