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Solved -PJ713- John W. Lorenz's Indy car street roadster
« on: February 08, 2016, 10:45:08 AM »
What is this?
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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2016, 11:19:24 AM »
RHD...  but too sunny to be in GB and they seem to be American cars in the background.
Austin-Healey based?
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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2016, 11:35:34 AM »
I've not many info about, but I think it's not that obscure after all.
Not AH-based.

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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2016, 12:33:07 PM »
Kurtis-related?
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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2016, 12:38:28 PM »
I believe it is.
Sorry but the text I found is too small...

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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2016, 05:33:12 AM »
Please post when you think it's time for the 400+ Pros. I don't know what it is though..........well, not for sure........
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2016, 05:58:34 AM »
US V8-powered?
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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2016, 06:01:27 AM »
Kurtis-related?
The Hallibrand wheels gave it away as Kurtis-based.  I think this was built by a Californian called John Lohreme, using a 1948 Lincoln engine.  Here's a rear view of the car.
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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2016, 06:17:04 AM »
It's as well that I didn't jump in - my "possible" answer was way off........ ;D
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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2016, 06:18:59 AM »
Please post when you think it's time for the 400+ Pros. I don't know what it is though..........well, not for sure........
From now on, I'll limit my puzzles (on a voluntary base) for puzzler with more than 600 points.
Kurtis-related?
The Hallibrand wheels gave it away as Kurtis-based.  I think this was built by a Californian called John Lohreme, using a 1948 Lincoln engine.  Here's a rear view of the car.
You are nearly there.
Not John Lohreme...it's written small but it's not a totally obscure name.
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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2016, 06:24:01 AM »
With my eyesight, the document I found is very small and difficult to read, so maybe his surname could be Boheme? ???
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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2016, 06:28:14 AM »
John Lohreme was pretty close.
I'd suggest you to look for the name you think it could be, togheter with the location (that should be easier to read ;) ) and you'll be able to complete the puzzle.
....or you can consider that John used the car to promote his business (and you can read it in the pic you posted) and it will take few seconds.
This will be a lot more fun than blind guessing ;)

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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2016, 07:13:37 AM »
John Lohreme was pretty close.

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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2016, 04:01:05 PM »
Ok, that's the right name. I'll fill in the details, the ones you can find googling "John Lohrenz" and "schoc shell" combined with "Long Beach, California".
John W. Lorenz from Long Beach, California, used this Indy car racer, converted to road use, to promote his business: Shoc Shell Racing Helmets.  ;)
"built from a Kurtis Indianapolis Speedway racer.
Jim Rathmann drove the car under the colors of Sandy Belond in the 1955 Memorial Day 500.
Lohrenz built the auto primarily as a show car to advertise his helmets."
The file I have is barely readable but it seems Bill Stroppe was involved and it had an Offenhauser engine.
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Re: PJ - 713
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2016, 04:12:43 PM »
Please post when you think it's time for the 400+ Pros. I don't know what it is though..........well, not for sure........

When I first saw the puzzle, I immediately though it was the Belond Special, modified for road use.  Then the names being mentioned didn't match, and I assumed I was wrong. The central seating position is the clue that this was originally an Indy roadster.

The Belond had bodywork which partially enclosed the car, and it can't have taken much to complete the road car conversion. George Salih was involved in the preparation of the Indy car.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: Solved -PJ713- John W. Lorenz's Indy car street roadster
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2016, 02:53:44 PM »
Thank you!