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Solved -PJ711- Braender Bulldog Special, 1914
« on: January 30, 2016, 03:34:05 PM »
What is this?
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I need a precise answer: builder and name (or nickname) of this vehicle.
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2016, 03:53:34 PM »
Drivers wearing an advertisement for washing detergent and rear-wheel brakes only - I wonder what country this could be?

Production (stock) engine?
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2016, 04:03:05 PM »
The engine was not built by an obscure name.

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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2016, 04:58:53 PM »
The engine was not built by an obscure name.

Aero engine?
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2016, 05:03:26 PM »
Nope.

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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2016, 05:07:13 PM »
 :o. Interesting "stroke" size of that engine!
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2016, 07:20:07 AM »
Is it a whopping Fiat engine?
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2016, 07:37:06 AM »
Not Fiat.

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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2016, 11:00:26 AM »
Benz engine
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2016, 03:45:37 PM »
Not Benz.

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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2016, 04:44:20 PM »
1909-1911?

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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2016, 02:13:07 AM »
slightly after.

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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2016, 06:41:15 AM »
American engine?
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2016, 12:40:42 PM »
Yes.

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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2016, 01:18:29 PM »
This car does not look like anything that would race at Indy or boardtracks. Did it race at Pikes Peak?
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2016, 04:57:27 PM »
twice wrong  ;)

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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2016, 05:35:46 AM »
The process of deduction begins. 1913?
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2016, 05:55:59 AM »
Nearly there...

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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2016, 06:00:01 AM »
Nearly there...

Did it take part in the Indy 500?
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2016, 09:26:56 AM »
Yes...

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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2016, 12:12:42 PM »
I can't find any images of some of the competing cars, so I'm going to guess.

Charlie Keene's Beaver Bullet?
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2016, 02:45:54 PM »
not that...

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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2016, 02:53:50 PM »
It's Billy Chandler in the Braender Bulldog which was a Mulford/Duesenberg combo at the running of the 1914 Indy 500.
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2016, 03:34:35 AM »
And it's 400!
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Re: PJ - 711
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2016, 04:11:01 AM »
And it's 400!
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I still haven't worked out why the builder of this car decided they needed such a tall bonnet line. It's got a Duesy engine, like so many of its contemporaries, but the design suggests something like an aero engine or one of those long stroke Peugeot motors.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia