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Title: Solved -PJ711- Braender Bulldog Special, 1914
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 30, 2016, 03:34:05 PM
What is this?
1 point for you.
I need a precise answer: builder and name (or nickname) of this vehicle.
(Puzzlers with more than 400 points, consider the opportunity to leave this puzzle for a few days, if you want  ;) )
Title: Re: PJ - 711
Post by: nicanary on January 30, 2016, 03:53:34 PM
Drivers wearing an advertisement for washing detergent and rear-wheel brakes only - I wonder what country this could be?

Production (stock) engine?
Title: Re: PJ - 711
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 30, 2016, 04:03:05 PM
The engine was not built by an obscure name.
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Post by: nicanary on January 30, 2016, 04:58:53 PM
The engine was not built by an obscure name.

Aero engine?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 30, 2016, 05:03:26 PM
Nope.
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Post by: nicanary on January 30, 2016, 05:07:13 PM
 :o. Interesting "stroke" size of that engine!
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Post by: Carnut on February 01, 2016, 07:20:07 AM
Is it a whopping Fiat engine?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on February 01, 2016, 07:37:06 AM
Not Fiat.
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Post by: D-type on February 01, 2016, 11:00:26 AM
Benz engine
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Post by: Paul Jaray on February 01, 2016, 03:45:37 PM
Not Benz.
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 01, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
1909-1911?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on February 02, 2016, 02:13:07 AM
slightly after.
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Post by: nicanary on February 02, 2016, 06:41:15 AM
American engine?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on February 02, 2016, 12:40:42 PM
Yes.
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Post by: nicanary on February 02, 2016, 01:18:29 PM
This car does not look like anything that would race at Indy or boardtracks. Did it race at Pikes Peak?
Title: Re: PJ - 711
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 02, 2016, 04:57:27 PM
twice wrong  ;)
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Post by: nicanary on February 03, 2016, 05:35:46 AM
The process of deduction begins. 1913?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on February 03, 2016, 05:55:59 AM
Nearly there...
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Post by: nicanary on February 03, 2016, 06:00:01 AM
Nearly there...

Did it take part in the Indy 500?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on February 03, 2016, 09:26:56 AM
Yes...
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Post by: nicanary on February 03, 2016, 12:12:42 PM
I can't find any images of some of the competing cars, so I'm going to guess.

Charlie Keene's Beaver Bullet?
Title: Re: PJ - 711
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 03, 2016, 02:45:54 PM
not that...
Title: Re: PJ - 711
Post by: nicanary on February 03, 2016, 02:53:50 PM
It's Billy Chandler in the Braender Bulldog which was a Mulford/Duesenberg combo at the running of the 1914 Indy 500.
Title: Re: PJ - 711
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 04, 2016, 03:34:35 AM
And it's 400!
Well done, point for you!
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Post by: nicanary on February 04, 2016, 04:11:01 AM
And it's 400!
Well done, point for you!

Thank you. If the editors decide to implement the Super-Pro category, this sum will remain static for some time!

I still haven't worked out why the builder of this car decided they needed such a tall bonnet line. It's got a Duesy engine, like so many of its contemporaries, but the design suggests something like an aero engine or one of those long stroke Peugeot motors.
Title: Re: PJ - 711
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 04, 2016, 05:20:08 AM
I found an article somewhere, I'll post it soon ;)
Title: Re: PJ - 711
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 05, 2016, 06:58:57 AM
From Robert Dick's book:
Title: Re: Solved -PJ711- Braender Bulldog Special, 1914
Post by: ropat53 on February 05, 2016, 08:19:37 AM
I still haven't worked out why the builder of this car decided they needed such a tall bonnet line. It's got a Duesy engine, like so many of its contemporaries, but the design suggests something like an aero engine or one of those long stroke Peugeot motors.
Here's the explanation.
Title: Re: Solved -PJ711- Braender Bulldog Special, 1914
Post by: nicanary on February 05, 2016, 08:21:55 AM
Thanks for the additional information you guys. Interesting form of early driver safety.