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Solved -PJ693- MM racing car bodied by Bonora, around 1939
« on: November 21, 2015, 08:30:59 AM »
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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2015, 05:13:14 PM »
An early Gordini?
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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2015, 05:24:27 PM »
Not a Gordini.

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2015, 02:14:00 AM »
Because you are warding 2 points I assume it's a very obscure make or a home-built ? I try a French car

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2015, 03:40:58 AM »
Not French.

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2015, 06:15:37 AM »
It appears to be an "offset" monoplace, and could be based on an earlier car than the bodywork suggests.

British base?
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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2015, 06:32:42 AM »
It is pretty obscure indeed but not impossible for a reason. Unfortunately my souce only reports an approximate year and it's builder.

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2015, 06:39:56 AM »
It is pretty obscure indeed but not impossible for a reason. Unfortunately my souce only reports an approximate year and it's builder.

Is it British?
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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2015, 06:50:50 AM »
Not British.

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2015, 06:54:24 AM »
German?
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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2015, 07:16:54 AM »
Not German.

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2015, 08:32:52 AM »
So........Italian?
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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2015, 08:36:51 AM »
Sė!

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2015, 09:16:02 AM »
Fiat-engined?
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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2015, 09:42:26 AM »
Not reported, but I doubt it for a precise reason.

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2015, 10:25:41 AM »
Not reported, but I doubt it for a precise reason.

,,,,,,,,because it's called a XXX Lancia special?
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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2015, 10:41:54 AM »
Nope, but a similar reason.

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2015, 10:56:30 AM »
It may be an Italian car, but is the engine also Italian?
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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2015, 11:21:38 AM »
I suppose it is.

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2015, 05:48:08 AM »
Is this car dated before 1940?
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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2015, 06:54:30 AM »
There is not a precise date but it is supposed to be from '39.

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2015, 07:25:29 AM »
I've found a really obscure car in my reference books - so obscure I've never heard of it, and can find no photos.

In the 1939 Coppa Ciano there was an entry of a Rocca by someone named as "Ventidue". Any chance this is that car?
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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2015, 04:26:00 PM »
Not Rocca. Ventidue is literally 'twenty-two'. I have no record of this car in any race.

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2015, 11:42:21 AM »
Because you are warding 2 points I assume it's a very obscure make or a home-built ? I try a French car
2 points, but not because it's impossible.
I'll ask for an additional info once the maker will be revealed.
With the right question, it will be solved pretty soon ;)

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Re: PJ - 693
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2015, 02:07:52 PM »
Not an obscure name but you won't find it in any book about cars.