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Solved NIC#482 - c.1927 Minerva AH 12CV
« on: October 04, 2015, 09:25:23 AM »
What is this car?
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2015, 09:15:52 AM »
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2016, 05:31:18 AM »
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2016, 07:14:15 AM »
French?
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Re: NIC#482
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 08:08:07 AM »
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Re: NIC#482
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2016, 10:05:56 AM »
From continental Europe?
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Re: NIC#482
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2016, 04:46:29 PM »
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2016, 07:53:00 PM »
From Belgium?
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Re: NIC#482
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2016, 04:26:31 AM »
F.N.?
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Re: NIC#482
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2016, 04:39:30 AM »
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2016, 04:47:00 AM »
1927 Minerva ah 11cv limousine
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2016, 04:56:04 AM »
Quote from: Mogul on January 13, 2016, 04:47:00 AM
1927 Minerva ah 11cv limousine

I'm not a Minerva expert, but Beaulieu doesn't mention the AH model, even though there are plenty of images on the internet! So I could be wrong here(what's new, they all cry?) but my source says it's a different model, one which IS recognised in the Encyclopedia.

LOCKED to tell me the model of Minerva.
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2016, 05:07:36 AM »
I'm surprised, being Belgian, I checked on the Owners/Enthusiasts Minerva website were you find the whole minerva story in Dutch. To identify I found attached picture, clearly it's the same car, only the wheels are different. So it's up to you.
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2016, 05:18:46 AM »
Georgano's Encyclopedia claims that the model in production at that time was called the AB 12CV, a 2-litre 6-cylinder car, and that's what my image source also called it.  Maybe there were 2 models using the same bodywork, but it would seem odd that Minerva would make both an 11CV car and at the same time a 12CV model.

I think the AH could be an updated AB model. I will award you the point - you have clearly researched this. If any AP member knows if I'm wrong, please let me know.
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2016, 05:27:54 AM »
Mogul, let me say Welcome to Autopuzzles!
It's good to have new members with great knowledge and the first thing I learnt here is that you never stop discover new facts!
I checked my files and it's true, there' not a single line about the AH model in several books (Beaulieu, Georgano's, Burgess-Wise, and so on.)
So I had a look in Kupelian's book and there it is a picture of an AH Model, that was a Six (2004cc) rated 12hp, just like the following AN model.
The AB was a 3 litre, 20hp ;)
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Re: Solved NIC#482 - c.1927 Minerva AH 11CV
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2016, 05:35:28 AM »
I delved some more, we both have some of the truth the 11CV was wrong but the type AH was correct, but I believe this is the correct solution. It's a Minerva 12 CV-Six type AH from 1927
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Re: NIC#482
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2016, 06:05:36 AM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2016, 05:27:54 AM
Mogul, let me say Welcome to Autopuzzles!
It's good to have new members with great knowledge and the first thing I learnt here is that you never stop discover new facts!
I checked my files and it's true, there' not a single line about the AH model in several books (Beaulieu, Georgano's, Burgess-Wise, and so on.)
So I had a look in Kupelian's book and there it is a picture of an AH Model, that was a Six (2004cc) rated 12hp, just like the following AN model.
The AB was a 3 litre, 20hp ;)

Nick Georgano gets it wrong again! Thanks for your help PJ - I'm pleased that Mogul got it right.
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