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Solved - NEH 4464: Cooper MG Barchetta - 1953
« on: January 22, 2016, 07:14:42 AM »
What's this, who built it for whom and from when does it originally date - for 1 point?

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Re: NEH 4464
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2016, 05:06:31 AM »
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Re: NEH 4464
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2016, 12:10:30 PM »
Ferrari 225 Sport Spyder?

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Re: NEH 4464
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2016, 04:14:11 AM »
Cooper Bristol ?

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Re: NEH 4464
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2016, 09:44:49 AM »
Cooper Bristol ?

The same car  has been puzzled before, pictured when it was a Cooper Bristol, but in this picture it's  Cooper-Something else!
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Re: NEH 4464
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2016, 03:02:16 AM »
I knew I had seen it before ! Cooper MG perhaps, or possibly the unique Cooper-Connaught ?

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Re: NEH 4464
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2016, 06:13:44 AM »
I knew I had seen it before ! Cooper MG perhaps, or possibly the unique Cooper-Connaught ?

Yes indeed, it is the Cooper MG.
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Re: NEH 4464
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2016, 08:24:59 AM »
I think the original date was 1952, at which point it was a Bristol-engined single seater raced by Alan Brown. A year or so later it was rebuilt as a two seater and later still acquired MG power. Leastways that's one story. Another has it that it's the ex-Hawthorn car, rebodied by Brown, later raced by Tom Kyffin.
At frst glance it does seem that all Cooper histories are also mysteries....

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Re: NEH 4464
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2016, 08:35:05 AM »
Very close to what to what I was looking for, in that it was rebodied for Alan Brown, but who by?
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Re: NEH 4464
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2016, 02:09:45 AM »
Wakefields of Byfleet ?

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Re: NEH 4464
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2016, 10:01:25 AM »
Wakefields of Byfleet ?

Yes, that's right; said to have been built in the style of the Vignale Ferraris of the time.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4464: Cooper MG Barchetta - 1953
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2016, 12:23:08 PM »
I've just had a quick look in Doug Nye's Cooper masterpiece to see if I could resolve this, but it is indeed a complex matter.When its racing days were over, the Tom Kyffin car was converted back to single-seat F2 form for historic racing, and the body fitted eventually onto one of the road/race early Cooper-MG chassis, and this is what exists in the US today. Which is presumably what the puzzle car is, except it has portholes in the bonnet sides, and Kyffin's car didn't have these. Maybe they were done for aesthetic purposes.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia