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Solved - NEH 4395: Emeryson 2-seater - 1954
« on: December 14, 2015, 07:42:23 AM »
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Re: NEH 4395
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2015, 05:19:19 AM »
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Re: NEH 4395
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2016, 04:07:37 AM »
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Re: NEH 4395
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2016, 04:13:58 AM »
Emeryson two-seater

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Re: NEH 4395
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2016, 04:24:50 AM »
Emeryson 2-seater 3400 1954

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Re: NEH 4395
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2016, 04:26:39 AM »
I used a similar picture for an old puzzle of mine but I can't find it back...

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Re: NEH 4395
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2016, 04:47:57 AM »
I'm too late with this one, but I doubt if I would have solved it anyway, simply because I have no idea what we're looking at.

As far as I know, Paul Emery didn't build any bespoke sports cars at this time. He did of course create the Emeryson-Jaguar which was based on Aston Martin DB3/6, and this has been a previous puzzle. The AP puzzle showed the car as an attractive coupe, but I believe the owner disposed of that body later that year (1954) and fitted an RGS Atalanta open shell. Later still, the car was converted into a single-seater.

This image doesn't look like an RGS body, although the 3400 moniker would fit, as that was the engine capacity of the XK motor fitted to the coupe. It's all a bit mysterious - my guess is that the present owner has had a 1950s-style body built to fit the old chassis, but hasn't DB3/6 been resurrected as an Aston Martin??

I've had a quick look through an excellent history of Paul Emery on the web - this car isn't mentioned, but if anyone knows more.......
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Re: NEH 4395
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2016, 05:00:03 AM »
It was one of my old puzzles and later it appeared in a group puzzle.
When I posted it I was asking for info because I had no clue about it.
It was identified as an Emeryson but I do not have a single source reporting such model.

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Re: NEH 4395
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2016, 05:06:58 AM »
It was one of my old puzzles and later it appeared in a group puzzle.
When I posted it I was asking for info because I had no clue about it.
It was identified as an Emeryson but I do not have a single source reporting such model.

I think this car is owned by Burkhard List. It may well be a single-seater Emeryson which was fitted with a 2.4-litre Jaguar engine and was in his possession. He thought ( or so the rumour says) he had bought the F1 car extensively campaigned in the 1950s by the builder but it turned out to be an older car from 1947 (it's been a previous puzzle on AP). Maybe he decided to convert it into a sports car and fitted a larger Jaguar engine?

These are just thoughts of mine - not fact!
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Re: NEH 4395
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2016, 05:31:01 AM »
I've given Wendax the point as he first correctly identified the car as the Emeryson 2-seater.
I also have little idea about the history of this car or what engine it had.
Looking at information about Paul Emery there are the following possibilities:

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From F3, Emery then turned his -attention to Fl again and constructed a new car with a tubular chassis and, initially, an Aston Martin DB3 engine, which first appeared in 1953. The Aston Martin unit blew up with depressing regularity and was replaced by a 2-litre Alta engine bought from John Cooper for £100. A short propshaft connected the engine to an ENV gearbox and, in order to lower the drive train and, hence, the seating position, the ENV differential was mounted backwards taking the power from underneath itself via a reduction box. Coil spring and wishbone suspension was used at the front, a de Dion layout at the rear and, again, the car had a neat body complete with that characteristically small air intake.
With its Alta engine increased to 2.5 litres, before Connaught did so, incidentally, the car was fairly competitive on slow and medium fast circuits against British dub opposition. In 1956, Emery qualified it for the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, practising faster than the Maseratis of Maglioli, Godia, Rosier and Brabham, and the Gordini of da Silva Ramos, only to retire with ignition trouble on lap four. During 1957 the Alta engine, which was kept, was replaced by an Emery-developed Jaguar 2.4-litre unit with dry sump lubrication and fuel injection achieved with a modified CAV diesel injection unit. It last raced in Fl at Goodwood in 1958 though appeared on the hills where Roberta Cowell successfully competed in the ladies' class. The car was sold to Tony Biggs who had Maurice Gomm construct a two-seater body for it and, again, it appeared in minor events sometimes with Ms Cowell at the wheel. Biggs died in the early '60s and the car languished behind a café until discovered by Tony Noel-Johnson who restored it to single-seater form. I believe it is now in the collection of Dr Philippe Renault in France.

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Following the 1953 Fl car came, in 1954, a sports racing coupe which Was basically an Aston Martin DB3 chassis (DB3/6) fitted with a Jaguar C-Type engine. Emery drove it at the Easter Goodwood meeting before selling it to R. H. Dennis who entered it as an "Emeryson" at Goodwood that September but subsequently raced it as an "Aston Martin-Jaguar Saloon". Dennis retained the car and in 1965 re-bodied it with the shell from DBR2/ I and also gave it a DB3S engine. In 1957 Emery worked for a while on a water-cooled flat four dohc 1./2litre engine, intending it as an F2 unit, but it was never completed.

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A Climax-powered sports car variant was built for Ray Fielding who won Isis class in the 1961 RAC Hill Climb Championship with it. It subsequently passed through various hands but it has been the property of Richard Falconer since 1971 who has used it on the road and in occasional races, with Paul Emery driving it for 85 laps in the 1977 Silverstone Six Hour Relay Race. It is currently undergoing a rebuild but part of it has another small claim to fame.

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Towards the end of 1966, Emery was in negotiations to buy the one-litre F2 Honda engines with which Jack Brabham and Denny Hulme had dominated F2 and which had become obsolete with the introduction the following year of a new 1,600 cc F2. His idea was to use these engines in a works sports car team which would drum up publicity for a new project he had in mind — the production of a mass-produced sports car with a monocoque and vacuum-formed fibreglass bodywork. Once again, his thinking was way ahead of then current practice but, once again, the project died through lack of finance. One wonders what the man might have achieved if, like Colin Chapman, he'd had the temperament to find the right business partner and to surround himself with the sort of engineer who could have taken his ideas and made them a practical reality. He didn't and that is the end of the story, for motor racing is about achievement not just bright ideas.
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The only one I can really believe it might be is the car in No. 1 above and someone has managed to re-unite the Maurice Gomm body with it.  As this car does appear at classic events the truth will no doubt come out one day!
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Re: Solved - NEH 4395: Emeryson 2-seater - 1954
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2016, 06:02:44 AM »
Thanks for that research. I was doing it all in my head, which doesn't always work.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4395: Emeryson 2-seater - 1954
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2016, 02:48:04 PM »
Are we sure this is an Emeryson?  When I saw it I immediately thought it was the Kieft-Buick which was put together by the team who built the Godiva-engine F1 Kieft-Climax - but it isn't as that has a larger air intake..
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Re: Solved - NEH 4395: Emeryson 2-seater - 1954
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2016, 06:14:27 PM »
Are we sure this is an Emeryson?  When I saw it I immediately thought it was the Kieft-Buick which was put together by the team who built the Godiva-engine F1 Kieft-Climax - but it isn't as that has a larger air intake..

As sure as we can be because that's what it's described as in the few places you can find a picture on the 'Net..

Below is another picture.
The car seems to be resident in Germany.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4395: Emeryson 2-seater - 1954
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2016, 06:28:22 PM »
And here's the puzzle picture of the car (actually at the same event) still with its badge.
Maybe you can recognise the badge?
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Re: Solved - NEH 4395: Emeryson 2-seater - 1954
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2016, 03:47:05 AM »
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