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Solved -PJ632- Patriarca 1000 sport Barchetta
« on: December 28, 2014, 09:25:44 AM »
What is this?
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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2015, 07:28:12 AM »
Experts?

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2015, 05:14:24 AM »
one of based on a lotus 7 type chassis?
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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2015, 05:36:14 AM »
I have few info about .
No idea about the chassis and the same source reports 2 different engines.

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2015, 03:54:45 AM »
Not an obscure name here...

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2015, 05:25:34 AM »
Now that it's meat for Pros, I'd like to know the exact model.
I have 2 different names and don't know the right one myself.
I won't lock it for just the builder's name.

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2015, 04:20:42 PM »
The architecture in the background looks like from Southeast Asia. Is the car from there?

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2015, 04:50:36 PM »
Far from there.

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2015, 04:04:34 AM »
From Europe ?

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2015, 04:08:07 AM »
Yes!

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2015, 04:12:05 AM »
Fiat Barchetta Patriarca

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2015, 04:13:12 AM »
Now that it's meat for Pros, I'd like to know the exact model.
I have 2 different names and don't know the right one myself.
I won't lock it for just the builder's name.
Yes!
But which one? I found 2 different names for the same pic.

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2015, 04:15:41 AM »
barchetta mod. Patriarca 1954 cilindrata 750/1000?

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2015, 04:19:33 AM »
Yes, those are the 2 different names I found too.
I couldn't find another pic or any detail about.
It doesn't look at all like a 750 or a 1000 Sport and I doubt it's from 1954!
 

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2015, 04:22:52 AM »
Those Cromodora CD30 aren't that old, for sure.

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2015, 04:11:25 PM »
Yes, those are the 2 different names I found too.
I couldn't find another pic or any detail about.
It doesn't look at all like a 750 or a 1000 Sport and I doubt it's from 1954!

I'm guessing that's a reference to the original barchetta built by Rodolfo Patriarca in 1951, which he had bodied by Pininfarina. It was raced with a 750cc engine, and later converted for road use and fitted with a 1100cc Fiat engine. That was in 1954.

The car still exists and is seen in retrospective events. This is not it - I think someone has built a modern "replica" probably powered by a Fiat Punto engine or something similar.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2015, 08:02:57 AM »
All I can find is that it is based on a 1993 Fiat Barchetta 1.8 16v, although the builder's name is not mentioned anywhere. It certainly has no connection with the 1954 Patriarca 1100, unless the builder is related to that man.

This is the car it claims to be.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2015, 08:38:34 AM »
Nice...but if your info came from a website where the car is for sale, I'm afraid they might be inaccurate. The same site calls it "Fiat Barchetta Patriarca" in the title of the ad, under the voice 'category' it's written 1800-1993, under the 'description' it's written: Anno 1954 fiat barchetta Patriarca 750/1000  :-\

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2015, 09:37:47 AM »
What?  Incorrect information in a For Sale ad on the 'Net?  Can't be....!
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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2015, 05:51:14 AM »
Waiting for a definitive identification, it's time for Black Hole.
1 point for who will find a valid proof (and 1 for Wendax if it will be a Patriarca, eventually).

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Re: PJ - 632
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2016, 01:38:03 PM »
Today I met Mr. Patriarca and asked him about this car.
He told me it's Bruno's car.
Then I met a friend of mine that gave me some magazines and... there it was finally another pic of this car and the confirmation I was looking for! If those are not coincidences!