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Solved: PN #925 -- Jim Gullan's Ballot Olds, 1946
« on: August 07, 2016, 12:20:27 PM »
Please ID this car for a point - who built, when, what was its name? A point is waiting for you!
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Re: PN #925
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2016, 07:05:40 AM »
Experts?
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Re: PN #925
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2016, 07:55:49 AM »
That looks like Australia to me!
No idea about the car though.
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Re: PN #925
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2016, 08:58:18 AM »
yes, it's from Australia. Let me give you a 24-hour lock, maybe you will find it!
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Re: PN #925
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2016, 02:26:18 PM »
Is that at the Rob Roy Hillclimb (which had a Historic meeting today, I believe)?
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Re: PN #925
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2016, 02:45:19 PM »
no
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Re: PN #925
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2016, 02:51:26 PM »
Is that at the Rob Roy Hillclimb (which had a Historic meeting today, I believe)?

Sorry to intrude on someone else's puzzle, but my source says that the venue is indeed Rob Roy (but not today!).
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Re: PN #925
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2016, 03:14:10 PM »
No, I think they'll have sealed the surface since then - and "then" would be in the 1940s I'd guess from the lack of headgear.
I'd be surprised if it really isn't Rob Roy. . .
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Re: PN #925
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2016, 03:43:22 PM »
yes, sorry, it really is Rob Roy. I made a mistake. Rob Roy, 1946
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Re: PN #925
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2016, 07:18:53 PM »
I found this description by Ray Bell of a special in The Nostalgia Forum:
JIM GULLAN’S BALLOT OLDS will always rank as one of those cars that looks the part of an Australian Special. The raked nose, the heavily drilled chassis, steering wheel close to the chest and mandatory straps over the bonnet, its wire wheels carried a car that mixed European and American as well as any other.
Fortunately the early life of the car is well detailed in Gullan’s book, ‘As Long As It Has Wheels,’ and there was plenty to write about as the Ballot Olds was to bring Gullan a number of successes. The car was bought in 1944, almost on a whim, it seems, after Gullan had sold the Indianapolis Ballot (by now fitted with Ford V8) early in the war.
A 2-litre model with sohc engine and knock-on wire wheels (more important, according to Gullan), it had a poor body. He mentions 4-wheel brakes with Dewandre servo, making it a 1926/28 model 2LT. Soon after buying it a workmate offered money for the engine, gearbox and radiator to fit into a Bugatti chassis.
Said Gullan: “I suppose any engine was better than none . . ”
Having just the chassis left, he thought he’d build a copy of his favourite car, the ERA. He was reluctant to go for another Ford, having had bad experiences with the V8, so an ad for an Oldsmobile engine and box (unused spares purchased for a Taxi) overcame his problems. It was to have triple Ford carbies and extractors.
The chassis was made into a copy of a Bugatti chassis, was shorter and narrower, designed to be ‘strong in the middle,’ boxed and drilled liberally ‘as on the SSK’ for lightness. The original hubs were retained, but laced to smaller rims, the spring shackes were located at the front instead of the rear as Gullan drew on all the modern technology he could identify.
Bob Baker built the body round an angle iron frame, which was screwed to the chassis with small reject aircraft bolts. A deliberate effort was made to reduce frontal area, hence the car’s low appearance. Quick-fill petrol and radiator caps were fabricated and instruments (like the carbies) came from army disposals.
The Ballot name was retained, even though virtually only the axles and wheel hubs remained, because it made it simple to register the car. Just roll up and pay the money!
Springs were fitted outside the chassis and there were torque stays to the front axle, with finned alloy drums off a spare 2-litre Ballot Jim had bought and sold. The first race was at Ballarat at the beginning of 1947, after which hydraulic shocks were fitted front and rear (‘to the horror of the Hartford purists!’) and hydraulic actuation of the brakes was arranged. For Lobethal, which the car was to win on handicap, a specially made 3.5:1 diff replaced the original 4.1:1 unit. Jim had to do the design work for the gear cutter.
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so I looked for Ballot Oldsmobile and found a version of the puzzle photo showing Jim Gullan in his car at Rob Roy in 1946
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Re: PN #925
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2016, 10:54:39 PM »
Nothing to add, but a point :)
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Re: Solved: PN #925 -- Jim Gullan's Ballot Olds, 1946
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2016, 03:18:06 AM »
Thanks!
Just for amusement, here's another typical Australian special at Rob Roy yesterday:
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Re: Solved: PN #925 -- Jim Gullan's Ballot Olds, 1946
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2016, 04:09:12 AM »
It's been a previous puzzle - George Reed's "Monoskate" - PN#414.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia