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Solved - NEH 5059: Rear-engined car by Ferenc Grósz
« on: December 19, 2016, 06:58:08 AM »
What can you tell me about this car and its builder?

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Re: NEH 5059
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2016, 01:53:25 PM »
Just stumbled across this one while looking for a completely different AutoPuzzle car! From what I can tell (the website is in Hungarian), this little car was built by Hungarian mechanic Ferenc Grósz in the 1950s and is powered by a 250 cc Pannonia motorcycle engine - I think!

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Re: NEH 5059
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2016, 05:07:28 AM »
Just stumbled across this one while looking for a completely different AutoPuzzle car! From what I can tell (the website is in Hungarian), this little car was built by Hungarian mechanic Ferenc Grósz in the 1950s and is powered by a 250 cc Pannonia motorcycle engine - I think!

That's right, yes.  I wish I could stumble across answers like that!
It's his little rear-engined car, but I have what might be a name for it, though I'm not entirely sure.. (Bing wouldn't translate it!).
Just to give you something else to look for so it wasn' too easy can you find the word (maybe its name) I'm looking for?
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Re: NEH 5059
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2016, 07:01:01 AM »
Now you made me curious. I never knew Grósz's car had a name :) And while the website is in Hungarian, some of the info is available in English as a book :)!
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Re: NEH 5059
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2016, 07:15:56 AM »
Now you made me curious. I never knew Grósz's car had a name :) And while the website is in Hungarian, some of the info is available in English as a book :)!

I'm not sure it is a name, as I said!
It's actually a very unlikely-looking name but since the computer wouldn't translate it I thought it can't be a normal word.   I'll PM you the word and perhaps you can tell me what it means!
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Re: NEH 5059
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2016, 09:36:16 AM »
Are we talking about the word "levizsgáztatják"? Oddly, Google Translate recognizes this word as Albanian but is incapable of translating the word to English from either Hungarian or Albanian. A search turned up a number of Hungarian websites and documents using this word, and from the context, the meaning seems to be something like "youth" or "youngsters". I am not sure it is the name of this car, however.

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Re: NEH 5059
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2016, 09:38:22 AM »
By the way, here's an old article about Ferenc "Ferri" Grósz and his automotive creations:

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Re: NEH 5059
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2016, 09:43:54 AM »
I wish I could stumble across answers like that!
It was thanks to you, actually! The other car I was searching for was your Hungarian "torpedo" car. You had two odd little Hungarian creatures posted at the same time.

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Re: NEH 5059
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2016, 11:15:21 AM »
Are we talking about the word "levizsgáztatják"? Oddly, Google Translate recognizes this word as Albanian but is incapable of translating the word to English from either Hungarian or Albanian. A search turned up a number of Hungarian websites and documents using this word, and from the context, the meaning seems to be something like "youth" or "youngsters". I am not sure it is the name of this car, however.

Yes, that is the word I was looking for.
I've asked Pal Negyesi what it means and am awaiting his reply.
I'd be very surprised if it is the car's name..
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Re: NEH 5059
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2016, 12:52:49 PM »
By the way, here's an old article about Ferenc "Ferri" Grósz and his automotive creations:

No, that's not about Feri Grósz. The article was written by Emil Bayer who collected photos on 1950s one-off Hungarian microcars and modified cars. You can see some of these illustrated.
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Re: NEH 5059
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2016, 12:53:36 PM »
Are we talking about the word "levizsgáztatják"? Oddly, Google Translate recognizes this word as Albanian but is incapable of translating the word to English from either Hungarian or Albanian. A search turned up a number of Hungarian websites and documents using this word, and from the context, the meaning seems to be something like "youth" or "youngsters". I am not sure it is the name of this car, however.

Yes, that is the word I was looking for.
I've asked Pal Negyesi what it means and am awaiting his reply.
I'd be very surprised if it is the car's name..

Levizsgáztatták means simply that it passed MoT
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Re: Solved - NEH 5059: Rear-engined car by Ferenc Grósz
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2016, 02:16:01 PM »
Thanks Pal.
That means it passed its roadworthiness certificate!
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Re: Solved - NEH 5059: Rear-engined car by Ferenc Grósz
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2016, 02:21:56 PM »
are there any additional photos of this car?

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Re: Solved - NEH 5059: Rear-engined car by Ferenc Grósz
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2016, 04:02:05 PM »
yes, there's another one which shows it under a tree in the background :) So this one is the only one which I have from the family which is good
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Re: Solved - NEH 5059: Rear-engined car by Ferenc Grósz
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2016, 04:35:01 PM »
thanks,I have to admit Hungary does have some interesting one-off cars,which I like the best.