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Solved - NEH 4885: Reg Myatt's 1st prize-winning Inter-City car in Sunday Telegraph competition 1970
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:20:24 AM »
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2016, 05:33:32 AM »
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2016, 06:27:53 AM »
Mmm, interesting. It's got a rear transaxle but outboard disc brakes and an ordinary-looking ohv V8 (or V6, can't tell), pretty unsophisticated steering geometry, so I think it's an idea for a mass-production car in the medium price range. The large greenhouse suggests 1970s. Is it American?
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2016, 07:16:57 AM »
Quote from: richard cuyler on October 10, 2016, 06:27:53 AM
Mmm, interesting. It's got a rear transaxle but outboard disc brakes and an ordinary-looking ohv V8 (or V6, can't tell), pretty unsophisticated steering geometry, so I think it's an idea for a mass-production car in the medium price range. The large greenhouse suggests 1970s. Is it American?

Good thinking and you might be nearer to the answer than you thought..
Not sure what the intended engine was.
It is from the early 1970s, yes
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2016, 08:55:03 AM »
Im not totally positive,but I think this is the inter-city car-Myatt ?
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2016, 04:09:08 AM »
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 10, 2016, 08:55:03 AM
Im not totally positive,but I think this is the inter-city car-Myatt ?

You're right, it is.
Locked for you to fill in the details of exactly what this car, designed by the 12-year old Reg Myatt, was and what it was designed for.
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2016, 09:25:56 AM »
from the information that I have is rather limited and blurry,but it was a four door four seater with  recessed headlights and v8 engine with fuel injection and automatic gearbox behind rear axle.It was suppose to be built for reasonable fuel mileage in inter-city use,it was by reg myatt of woodside,chelmford Essex.From what I gather it got Inter-city First Prize? I hope I have the information correct.
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2016, 11:08:46 AM »
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 11, 2016, 09:25:56 AM
from the information that I have is rather limited and blurry,but it was a four door four seater with  recessed headlights and v8 engine with fuel injection and automatic gearbox behind rear axle.It was suppose to be built for reasonable fuel mileage in inter-city use,it was by reg myatt of woodside,chelmford Essex.From what I gather it got Inter-city First Prize? I hope I have the information correct.

Yes you have, but First Prize in what?!
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2016, 11:38:41 AM »
was it for its great styling for a compact city car?
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2016, 01:48:32 PM »
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 11, 2016, 11:38:41 AM
was it for its great styling for a compact city car?

No, it was a competition organised in the UK for a car of the entrants' choice.
I believe the same organisation commissioned more than one one-off car..
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2016, 02:42:19 PM »
I did notice some more one-off,s from the same competition like the Ant and the Bugette,I can,t much information on the myatt though only a small caption.
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2016, 04:03:45 AM »
Vauxhall car design competition UK
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2016, 04:12:27 AM »
Quote from: shamrock on October 12, 2016, 04:03:45 AM
Vauxhall car design competition UK

Not that competition, no.
Actually this is locked for kwgibbs as he's given nearly all the info required; now I just need to know what competition it was.  The answer is out there!
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2016, 07:11:37 AM »
was it a competition involving BMC? the information I need is probably right under my nose,bbut Im not clever enough to see it ?
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2016, 07:34:39 AM »
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 12, 2016, 07:11:37 AM
was it a competition involving BMC? the information I need is probably right under my nose,bbut Im not clever enough to see it ?

No, it wasn't a car company at all.
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2016, 08:49:49 AM »
was it the- cars of the future competition? I can,t find hardly any information on this.
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2016, 10:15:09 AM »
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 12, 2016, 08:49:49 AM
was it the- cars of the future competition? I can,t find hardly any information on this.

No, it was in the UK and was not normally particularly linked with cars on a daily basis, although as I said they did commission a couple of one-offs.
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2016, 10:40:41 AM »
I,ll give a long shot ,is it the telegraph competition to design a city car?
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Re: NEH 4885
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2016, 11:59:00 AM »
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 12, 2016, 10:40:41 AM
I,ll give a long shot ,is it the telegraph competition to design a city car?

Yes!  The Sunday Telegraph actually, in 1970, and you were right first time with Inter-City car.  It was to  have a 4-litre V8 so definitely not a city car!

They had 1st and 2nd prize-winners in the City Car category then this 1st prize in the Inter-City car category.

Well done.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4885: Reg Myatt's 1st prize-winning Inter-City car in Sunday Telegraph competition
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2016, 12:15:00 PM »
thank you for the point! sorry it took so long. :)
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Re: Solved - NEH 4885: Reg Myatt's 1st prize-winning Inter-City car in Sunday Telegraph competition
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2016, 12:21:28 PM »
And the styling was done by a 12-year-old Reg Myatt and not by the ex-Rootes chief stylist Reg Myatt?
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Re: Solved - NEH 4885: Reg Myatt's 1st prize-winning Inter-City car in Sunday Telegraph competition
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2016, 03:59:27 AM »
Quote from: Wendax on October 12, 2016, 12:21:28 PM
And the styling was done by a 12-year-old Reg Myatt and not by the ex-Rootes chief stylist Reg Myatt?

It's a bit difficult to read but that's what it says.. ("By Reg Myatt, aged 12, Woodside, Chelmsford, Essex, who wins £250")
Maybe Reg Myatt Jr.?
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Re: Solved - NEH 4885: Reg Myatt's 1st prize-winning Inter-City car in Sunday Telegraph competition
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2016, 04:42:08 AM »
I find hard to believe that a 12-year old kid could draw such high quality sketches and technical drawings. He was probably helped by his father, or he was a real genius !
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Re: Solved - NEH 4885: Reg Myatt's 1st prize-winning Inter-City car in Sunday Telegraph competition
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2016, 05:02:24 AM »
Quote from: oko94 on October 13, 2016, 04:42:08 AM
I find hard to believe that a 12-year old kid could draw such high quality sketches and technical drawings. He was probably helped by his father, or he was a real genius !

I agree, it seems almost inconceivable but if it was Reg Myatt Jr then his address, Woodside, Chelmsford, seems a bit odd as Rootes-Chrysler were based at Ryton-on-Dunsmore, Coventry - an awful long way away from Chelmsford.  No-one commuted those distances in those days.  But some of the other prize-winning designs were pretty good for youngsters too.

Myatt is not a common British surname, and I doubt if there were many 12-year-olds called Reg in 1970 either.  An odd one!  Maybe Reg Sr was posing as a 12-year-old!
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Re: Solved - NEH 4885: Reg Myatt's 1st prize-winning Inter-City car in Sunday Telegraph competition
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2018, 04:15:57 PM »
This has made me smile!

The car was designed by my late father, Reg Myatt, for the Sunday Telegraph Competition in 1965.

He was a great designer, but even he couldn't of managed this aged 12! He was 32 :D

At the time he won the competition he was a Body Engineer at Ford. He very soon found himself working there as a stylist, working under Roy Haynes on detail stuff for the Zephyr/Zodiac IV, Mk 1 Escort and Mk 1 Capri. He went to Chrysler in 1968, later becoming Chief Exterior Stylist.

Think I still have the original sketches and copies of the magazine somewhere in his archive. I only found this when researching for the Wiki entry I'm compiling on him but thanks for featuring it, it's made my day  8)

Dave.
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