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grobīs group puzzle: 4 cars at Stadtparkrennen Hamburg 1949
« on: January 13, 2015, 02:14:14 PM »
Who knows all those race cars?

Finally this one is solved!


Car A: solved by pnegyesi:   Alfred Fegers' AF special, driven by Paul Dübbers
Car B: solved by pnegyesi:   Hinz VW-Spezialintertyp
Car C: solved by Wendax:    Alpers Eigenbau special, driven by Karl Golka
Car D: solved by Wendax:    Baxmann Fiat 1100ccm

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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2015, 12:31:19 PM »
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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2015, 03:37:41 PM »
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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2015, 04:24:34 PM »
Postwar German?

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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2015, 04:44:03 PM »
Puzzle car "B":

Yes.

As it is a one-off special to my best knowledge it may be helpful to find out where and when it raced at first.

The event took place in a big German city and there still (or better again) there is a race with the same name.
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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2015, 04:57:47 PM »
Solitude in Stuttgart?

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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2015, 05:11:18 PM »
Not in the South... ;)

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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2015, 05:15:19 PM »
Stadtparkrennen Hamburg?

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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2015, 06:50:43 PM »
Yes - 1949...

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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2015, 12:49:13 AM »
There were two racing cars categories at that race. I vote for the smaller and try:
Heinrich Schnelle, HFT special
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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2015, 01:41:39 AM »
It is certainly from the bigger 1100 cc category:

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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2015, 02:27:15 AM »
Oh, wow - another version of my scanned photo!

Yes - this is certainly the car.

But the puzzle car Puzzle car "B": cannot be the HFT, because it is not BMW-engined...

I have changed it into a group puzzle now, because I know almost every car on the group photo  ;)
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Re: grob 2015.01.13 (03)
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2015, 02:38:42 AM »
I hope that was O.K. for you all to extend the puzzle.
I wanted to place them all step by step, but now that we have the group photo published...
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Re: grobīs NEW extended group puzzle: 4 cars at Stadtparkrennen Hamburg 1949
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2015, 03:06:28 AM »
Car D is the Fiat 1100 driven by Wilhelm Baxmann

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Re: grobīs NEW extended group puzzle: 4 cars at Stadtparkrennen Hamburg 1949
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2015, 03:09:21 AM »
Is car C an Adler Trumpf Junior?

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Re: grobīs NEW extended group puzzle: 4 cars at Stadtparkrennen Hamburg 1949
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2015, 03:16:35 AM »
One point for the Baxmann Fiat.

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Is car C an Adler Trumpf Junior?

Could be, but I donīt know really.
I only know the driverīs name that also gave birth to that "Eigenbau" and where he was from.

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Re: grobīs NEW extended group puzzle: 4 cars at Stadtparkrennen Hamburg 1949
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2015, 03:44:30 AM »
C: Paul Dübbers, AF?
A: Vollmer?
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Re: grobīs NEW extended group puzzle: 4 cars at Stadtparkrennen Hamburg 1949
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2015, 04:17:21 AM »
LOCKED for you!

One of those is an AF, driven by Paul Dübbers, but it is not car C...

And Vollmer is not driving one of those cars.

Two more tries for you!

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Paul Dübbers who is driving Alfred Fegers' Volkswagen-powered AF special is probably A

Is B Fiat-powered?
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Paul Dübbers who is driving Alfred Fegers' Volkswagen-powered AF special is probably A

One point for you!

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Is B Fiat-powered?

No.

UNLOCKED - this is open for all again.

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Re: grobīs NEW group puzzle: 4 cars at Stadtparkrennen Hamburg 1949
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2015, 05:32:02 AM »
Is B a certain Mr Warnken in a VW Eigenbau?
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Re: grobīs NEW group puzzle: 4 cars at Stadtparkrennen Hamburg 1949
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2015, 05:41:11 AM »
"B" is indeed a VW Eigenbau, but I have a different name.

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Re: grobīs NEW group puzzle: 4 cars at Stadtparkrennen Hamburg 1949
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2015, 05:43:39 AM »
Oh, I did not see this one:

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Is car C an Adler Trumpf Junior?

I only have a name of the driver/builder of this unique "Eigenbau" and where he came from.

However I do not know any technical deatils despite the engine capacity of 1100ccm.

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Re: grobīs NEW group puzzle: 4 cars at Stadtparkrennen Hamburg 1949
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2015, 05:48:52 AM »
Was B driven by Rudolf Trenkel?
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Re: grobīs NEW group puzzle: 4 cars at Stadtparkrennen Hamburg 1949
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2015, 05:51:36 AM »
As for C - Stademann from Harzburg?
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