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F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« on: January 17, 2012, 03:01:37 PM »
The information about this one is very limited. For one point give me the name of a person responsible for this vehicle (I probably have it with a spelling mistake), approximate year and purpose.
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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 11:02:13 AM »
I'll be moving it a bit faster than usually. So, up it goes.

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 10:27:32 AM »
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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 05:26:55 AM »
Do you know if it was ever built?

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 06:20:00 AM »
The article suggests so, but I'm not sure.

I stand corrected. It reads 'designed', so it was not necessarily built.
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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 02:31:20 AM »
I was hoping to fin some info here in fact, but seems no one recognizes the car...

Hint: it's European.

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 08:27:20 AM »
Looks similar to Tarf 1 de Piero Taruffi

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 02:25:52 PM »
It does, but compare the size ;)

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 02:41:37 PM »
I've found another similar but has no name for it

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 03:00:59 AM »
I think this is the same, judging by year and the looks. Wouldn't wonder if this is the original source of info for my one. Locked until your next reply.

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 12:01:06 PM »
The cover is signed by Edgar Franklin Wittmack
From Wikipedia:
Edgar Franklin Wittmack (1894–1956) was an illustrator and cover artist for many of the most popular magazines of the 1920s and 1930s.[1][2] His covers, just as the artwork of his contemporary, Norman Rockwell, were usually created as oil paintings. Where Rockwell specialized in the humorous aspects of small town life, Wittmack dealt mainly with male-oriented interests. He often painted heroic or action-type figures for the "Saturday Evening Post",[1][2] "American Boy",[1][2] "Outdoor Life"[3] and many of the other pulp magazines of the time.
However, he is probably most known for the covers he created for "Popular Science". His "retro-futuristic" style was used during the depression to artistically convert the ideas of inventive Americans into unique visual expressions of potential reality.

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 01:22:54 AM »
Sorry, missed your reply.  

So, as I said, I was looking for more info on this car myself. The drawing could have probably made by E.F.Wittmack, I don't know for sure. The source I took this picture from has most probably reprinted the drawing from the inside of this magazine issue and was referring to it as to a real project (not sure if it was done or was being performed then and can't say whether it has been finished) with a real name of a non-American person who was responsible for it. They even mentioned engine output.

I open this for all, maybe someone will come up with something certain?
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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2012, 08:58:55 AM »
Another hint: the car is (or should have been?) French.

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2012, 11:40:14 PM »
 Hi-Speed Racing Car with Twin Hulls is the name that appeared in Popular Science Magazine Cover No. 132 June 1938. Maybe has a proper name? Because you pointed that is a french design.

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2012, 01:55:32 AM »
I'm not sure it had any proper name, all I need now is the name of the builder, who was French (or at least seemed to live in France and had a French surname). Year and purpose - correct :)

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2013, 06:54:46 PM »
Time to  :bump:
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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2013, 04:45:14 PM »
The info I know.

Designed in 1938 by a French designer Jean L...... (I don't know the correct spelling of his second name though, so don't count the dots) to beat the world land speed record. Equipped with two engines of 700hp (guess, in common).

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2015, 08:52:53 AM »
Let's try something : designed by Jean Legrand ?

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2016, 07:16:23 AM »
Uh...sorry for such a long response. No, the surname was not Legrand.

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2016, 01:50:09 PM »
Jean Louvin ?

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2016, 12:32:21 PM »
Not Louvin either

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2016, 01:00:19 PM »
Jean Letourneur?

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2016, 04:28:15 PM »
 :bump:

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2016, 05:54:48 AM »
Neither  ;D

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Re: F#169 - SOLVED - 1935 'Bisiluro' by M. Jean Lacaine
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2016, 05:57:04 AM »
May we have a hint ? If we suggest every French surname starting with L it may take a while.  ;)