Author Topic: Ubb184 Belsize RM6 (or 14/30) Tourer 1925 (Read 5525 times)

mekubb · « **on:** October 20, 2014, 06:26:21 PM »

Make, model and year please

mekubb · « **Reply #1 on:** November 21, 2014, 11:13:07 AM »

Experts ?

mekubb · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2014, 04:28:25 AM »

Up again

nicanary · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2014, 04:59:34 AM »

Clyno?

mekubb · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2014, 05:01:03 AM »

Quote from: nicanary on December 31, 2014, 04:59:34 AM

Clyno?

No

Wendax · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2014, 05:07:34 AM »

To assure the obvious: British from the first half of the 1920s?

mekubb · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2014, 07:33:07 AM »

British it is indeed, not exactly the first half of the twenties though

Arunas · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2014, 07:37:07 AM »

Hi!

It's Belsize!

I will check for more exact model and year later...

mekubb · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2014, 09:09:12 AM »

Quote from: Arunas on December 31, 2014, 07:37:07 AM

Hi!

It's Belsize!

I will check for more exact model and year later...

Yes it is, locked for you for the year and model

Arunas · « **Reply #9 on:** December 31, 2014, 10:24:55 AM »

I think it could be 1919-1923 Belsize 15/20 Tourer..

mekubb · « **Reply #10 on:** December 31, 2014, 02:10:21 PM »

Not a 15/20 and not 1919-1923.... one more try for you

mekubb · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2015, 12:40:15 PM »

Unlocked

Arunas · « **Reply #12 on:** January 04, 2015, 12:49:39 PM »

I've found a name Belsize RM6 for this car, but such name is not mentioend in any of the books I have...

targhediferro · « **Reply #13 on:** January 04, 2015, 01:23:13 PM »

According to Georgano, none of the 6 and 8 cylinders models, projected for 1925, were actually produced; could this car be a Belsize-Bradshaw 12 hp from 1923?

Wendax · « **Reply #14 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:03:11 PM »

Too late, Arunas is right, it is a 1925 RM6.

4popoid · « **Reply #15 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:07:16 PM »

Yes Arunas gets this one (I type too slowly). I have it as a: Belsize RM 6 Tourer, from 1925.

targhediferro · « **Reply #16 on:** January 04, 2015, 07:21:00 PM »

I saw Arunas answer...He said he couldn't find any notice about this model but the caption of the quiz picture, so I spent some time trying to know something more about Belsize's history. On the net there's very little about this maker, and so on my books, but, as I told, it seems that Belsize stopped to produce cars in 1925 and since 1922 its cars were sold as Belsize-Bradshow. I understand that RM6 could be the name of one of the new products Belsize meant to produce before it went into bankrupt and they weren't actually realized, according to Georgano. So, is this a very rare / unique prototype, or is the caption / Georgano not reliable?

mekubb · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:42:43 AM »

I give the point to Arunas because my source calls it a Belsize RM 6 Tourer from 1925. I believe it's also called a 14/30 Tourer. There is indeed little info on the net on Belsize and RM6 isn't mentioned there, but my source is normally quite reliable and I assume they have its name from the owner. I understood that only 3 examples are still around in the world.

Allan L · « **Reply #18 on:** January 05, 2015, 03:54:08 AM »

I can't really add much about the puzzle car but I can tell you that the Belsize-Bradshaw was a small car designed for Belsize by Granville Bradshaw. His main contribution was the 1074cc two-cylinder so-called "oil-cooled" engine.
Tim Nicholson writing in Georgano tells us that in the 1920s all Belsize cars were marketed as Belsize-Bradshaw, but I'm not convinced he was right.

nicanary · « **Reply #19 on:** January 05, 2015, 05:56:35 AM »

Quote from: Allan L on January 05, 2015, 03:54:08 AM

I can't really add much about the puzzle car but I can tell you that the Belsize-Bradshaw was a small car designed for Belsize by Granville Bradshaw. His main contribution was the 1074cc two-cylinder so-called "oil-cooled" engine.
Tim Nicholson writing in Georgano tells us that in the 1920s all Belsize cars were marketed as Belsize-Bradshaw, but I'm not convinced he was right.

You know far more than myself about British vintage cars, and all I can add is that I agree. It's a Belsize, and nothing to do with Granville Bradshaw. For 1925 the company introduced 2 more conventional cars, the 10/20 RM and the 14/30 "six". I assume the designation RM6 refers to the fact that this is one of the bigger-engined cars, but to my eye it looks too small - it seems far more like a "light car" in size and I wonder if it's actually a 10/20.

Wendax · « **Reply #20 on:** January 05, 2015, 06:37:04 AM »

The engine looks like a six to me:

nicanary · « **Reply #21 on:** January 05, 2015, 06:39:41 AM »

Quote from: Wendax on January 05, 2015, 06:37:04 AM

The engine looks like a six to me:

I bow down to my own ignorance.....

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Author Topic: Ubb184 Belsize RM6 (or 14/30) Tourer 1925 (Read 5525 times)