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Solved: Wendax 1700 - Butenuth Dampfauto
« on: September 14, 2015, 03:06:21 AM »
Hard times.

For one point, please respond and identify this truck.
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2015, 04:52:38 PM »
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2015, 02:36:37 AM »
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2015, 02:44:54 AM »
German marque?
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2015, 03:04:07 AM »
Yes
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2015, 03:17:56 AM »
Manufactured in DDR territory?
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2015, 03:21:58 AM »
I believe this is a Ford V 3000S.
This one with the Einheitsfahrerhaus or standard drivers cabin used from about 1944 on.
Built mainly of wood as the supply of steel was very scarce by then.
Also known as "The Lost War Cab".

This one also has some sort of Holzgas wood fuel apparatus also a result of lack of supply of gasoline.

The photo seems to be taken postwar judging by the use of only one rear wheel.

Here is a photo of a factory new one.

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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2015, 03:28:42 AM »
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2015, 03:31:53 AM »
Quote from: Bill Murray on September 28, 2015, 03:21:58 AM
I believe this is a Ford V 3000S.
This one with the Einheitsfahrerhaus or standard drivers cabin used from about 1944 on.
Built mainly of wood as the supply of steel was very scarce by then.
Also known as "The Lost War Cab".

This one also has some sort of Holzgas wood fuel apparatus also a result of lack of supply of gasoline.

The photo seems to be taken postwar judging by the use of only one rear wheel.

Here is a photo of a factory new one.

Bill
It is certainly based on a Ford V3000S. And it is a postwar conversion with some sort of apparatus, as you said. Follow that trail. Locked for you for one guess.
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2015, 05:43:51 AM »
I have no idea what more you are looking for.

All I can say from here is that the Imbert Gasifier was quite popular and the truck could have been used in postwar reconstruction jobs.

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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2015, 05:45:42 AM »
It is not a Holzgas conversion, alas not an Imbert.

Open for all again.
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2015, 07:27:06 AM »
Is the vehicle in use in Germany?
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2015, 07:30:22 AM »
Yes
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2015, 12:45:24 AM »
Ford was involved in the use of Benzol as a motor fuel.  Might this truck be modified to use Benzol?
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2015, 02:42:14 AM »
No, and it is not a modification done by Ford.
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2015, 01:54:30 PM »
You said: "It is not a Holzgas conversion", which I interpret to mean that it is not a device for making fuel from wood (wood gas).  However, there was a process for making "distillate (fuel) from lignite coal", although I don't know if this was possible using a mobile device.  If it was possible, might the converter shown be one for this process?
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2015, 02:03:18 PM »
Not a mobile fuel distillery  :)
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2015, 02:40:19 PM »
Does the visible extra equipment have anything at all to do with an alternative fuel source for the vehicle?
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2015, 03:38:47 PM »
Yes
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2015, 04:38:09 PM »
Is the alternative fuel derived from some form (hard, soft, lignite, rtc.) of coal?
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2015, 04:52:51 PM »
Yes, and it is not just an alternative fuel, also the engine is different to the one originally installed.
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2015, 05:22:34 PM »
Sometimes, the language or terminology is important in these quizzes.

So, could it be that we are chasing the wrong interpretation of "alternative fuel"?

The rather poor quality photo does show several pieces of kit that were found on coal/wood powered motors but a lot of bits are also missing.

If I interpret "alternative fuel" as something other than gasoline/petrol, then I could say that the V3000 series was only supplied with gasoline engines.

Could it then be that this is a Ford V3000 that has been retrofitted with a diesel engine???

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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2015, 05:31:20 PM »
Not a diesel engine. As I stated in my last answer, the alternative fuel is coal. So what kind of engine might it be?
And who did this conversion?
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2015, 05:48:05 PM »
Is the engine some sort of turbine?
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Re: Wendax 1700
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2015, 06:03:21 PM »
Steam?
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