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Title: Solved: Wendax 1629 - BMW Sportcabriolet design by Hans A. Muth
Post by: Wendax on June 20, 2015, 01:40:03 AM
A design that never materialized.

For one point, please respond and identify the designer and the car it should have been.
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on June 27, 2015, 01:50:14 AM
up
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: thewarlord on June 27, 2015, 02:57:13 AM
Italian designer?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on June 27, 2015, 04:25:44 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: richard cuyler on June 29, 2015, 09:16:03 AM
Lovely little thing. Is there a Simca 1000 underneath? ???
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on June 29, 2015, 09:25:31 AM
No Simca 1000 involved
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: wingroad on June 29, 2015, 04:11:26 PM
Italian ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on June 29, 2015, 04:17:43 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: el_monty on June 29, 2015, 06:32:07 PM
German?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on June 30, 2015, 02:39:45 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: wingroad on June 30, 2015, 04:45:07 PM
NSU ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on June 30, 2015, 05:13:58 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: wingroad on June 30, 2015, 06:57:09 PM
Glas ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 01, 2015, 03:09:58 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: wingroad on July 01, 2015, 04:03:23 PM
Audi ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 01, 2015, 04:43:27 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: wingroad on July 02, 2015, 03:22:01 PM
Borgward ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 02, 2015, 03:45:52 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 02, 2015, 04:52:51 PM
VW?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 02, 2015, 04:55:51 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: wingroad on July 04, 2015, 03:53:45 PM
DKW
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 04, 2015, 04:20:31 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 05, 2015, 09:46:50 AM
Was the body designed in Italy?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 05, 2015, 05:02:31 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 05, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
Opel?

If not, is the manufacturer still in existence today?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 06, 2015, 02:39:25 AM
Not Opel
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: richard cuyler on July 06, 2015, 05:47:56 AM
Quote from: AlexFrance on July 05, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
Opel?

If not, is the manufacturer still in existence today?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 06, 2015, 05:51:25 AM
Quote from: richard cuyler on July 06, 2015, 05:47:56 AM
If not, is the manufacturer still in existence today?
Yes

(Sometimes I don't like to answer two questions at a time.  ;) )
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 06, 2015, 08:42:55 AM
BMW?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 06, 2015, 09:40:53 AM
Yes, that was the easy bit. Now I need the designer.
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 06, 2015, 11:34:15 AM
Was the designer from the USA?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: wingroad on July 06, 2015, 02:32:45 PM
Albrecht Goetz ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 06, 2015, 04:07:13 PM
Twice no
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 06, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
Was it a proposal designed outside of BMW?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: richard cuyler on July 06, 2015, 07:15:48 PM
It seems to be rear-engined, so is it perhaps a Wilhelm Hofmeister design proposal for an updated BMW 700? To me, though, it looks very Italian, something Vignale may have been proud to present. ??? ???
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 07, 2015, 02:48:12 AM
Quote from: AlexFrance on July 06, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
Was it a proposal designed outside of BMW?
Yes

Quote from: richard cuyler on July 06, 2015, 07:15:48 PM
It seems to be rear-engined, so is it perhaps a Wilhelm Hofmeister design proposal for an updated BMW 700? To me, though, it looks very Italian, something Vignale may have been proud to present. ??? ???
You are right about the base car, but it was not done by Wilhelm Hofmeister.
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 07, 2015, 05:33:43 AM
Quote from: Wendax on July 07, 2015, 02:48:12 AM

Quote from: richard cuyler on July 06, 2015, 07:15:48 PM
It seems to be rear-engined, so is it perhaps a Wilhelm Hofmeister design proposal for an updated BMW 700? To me, though, it looks very Italian, something Vignale may have been proud to present. ??? ???
You are right about the base car, but it was not done by Wilhelm Hofmeister.

Just to make things perfectly clear, do you confirm that the base car is a BMW 700?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 07, 2015, 06:52:05 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 07, 2015, 09:48:32 AM
Was it designed by a German individual/studio?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 07, 2015, 10:33:31 AM
Yes, we had designs by him at AP before.
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 07, 2015, 11:30:06 AM
Was it a proposal for a regular BMW 700 or a specific version, for instance a 700 RS or a 700 LS Luxus Cabriolet?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 07, 2015, 01:09:54 PM
I have to correct myself. Judging by the year this drawing was made, it is not based on a 700, but on another rear-engined BMW.
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 07, 2015, 01:30:41 PM
Based on my -highly- limited knowledge of BMW cars, I can think only of one another rear-engined one: the BMW 600.

But it doesn't look like that's the base of that car, or is it?

Unless it's a model that was not badged under the BMW name?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 07, 2015, 01:50:24 PM
I think that BMW 600 is right. Remember that it is just a drawing that never materialized.  :)
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 07, 2015, 05:24:41 PM
Quote from: Wendax on July 07, 2015, 01:50:24 PM
I think that BMW 600 is right. Remember that it is just a drawing that never materialized.  :)

Ok! :)

Now, let's try to find the designer of that car. What about Baur?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 07, 2015, 05:30:04 PM
Not Baur
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 07, 2015, 05:31:23 PM
Karmann?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 08, 2015, 03:19:18 AM
Not Karmann, and not by a coachbuilder at all.
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 09, 2015, 06:27:46 PM
So this is the name of an individual we are looking for?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 10, 2015, 02:27:57 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: richard cuyler on July 10, 2015, 06:39:03 AM
A calculated guess: Renzo Rivolta?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 10, 2015, 06:55:29 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: richard cuyler on July 12, 2015, 02:37:38 PM
This could go on for a while...Luigi Colani?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 12, 2015, 02:50:28 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: AlexFrance on July 13, 2015, 04:36:55 PM
Is that person known for designing cars?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on July 13, 2015, 05:01:14 PM
Not only, but: yes.
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: 58_spyder on July 23, 2015, 10:23:27 AM
oops, sorry missed the input that it was a BMW.
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: richard cuyler on July 24, 2015, 12:42:34 PM
Last guess, even though it looks nothing like one of his designs: Raymond Loewy?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: richard cuyler on July 27, 2015, 08:35:03 AM
Quote from: richard cuyler on July 24, 2015, 12:42:34 PM
Last guess, even though it looks nothing like one of his designs: Raymond Loewy?

Bump...... :)
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Carnut on July 27, 2015, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: richard cuyler on July 27, 2015, 08:35:03 AM
Quote from: richard cuyler on July 24, 2015, 12:42:34 PM
Last guess, even though it looks nothing like one of his designs: Raymond Loewy?

Bump...... :)

Wendax is on holiday for a couple of weeks, I believe without his computer!
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: richard cuyler on July 28, 2015, 06:15:42 PM
What a sound decision to leave those sorts of things at home.  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: richard cuyler on July 30, 2015, 09:11:12 AM
For when he gets home: Claus Luthe?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Limo on August 02, 2015, 09:25:05 AM
Michelotti BMW proposal?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 02, 2015, 06:40:04 PM
Neither Loewy, Luthe, nor Michelotti
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 02:39:56 AM
up again
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 03:02:36 AM
Philippe Charbonneaux ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 03:43:37 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 03:44:38 AM
Are we looking for a German designer ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 03:52:36 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 03:55:09 AM
Michael Conrad ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 03:59:02 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 06:19:45 AM
Has this designer ever worked inside the design studio of a German car make ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: pnegyesi on August 09, 2015, 06:38:28 AM
 Peter Szymanowski?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 06:40:48 AM
Quote from: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 06:19:45 AM
Has this designer ever worked inside the design studio of a German car make ?
Yes

Quote from: pnegyesi on August 09, 2015, 06:38:28 AM
Peter Szymanowski?
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 06:41:29 AM
Did he work at BMW ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 06:47:48 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 06:55:42 AM
Alex von Falkenhausen ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 06:58:41 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 07:06:16 AM
Manfred Rennen ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 07:30:33 AM
Georg Bertram ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 07:40:23 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 07:41:43 AM
Was this designer still alive in 1980 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 07:53:54 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Djetset on August 09, 2015, 08:00:09 AM
Colani?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 08:05:16 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: pnegyesi on August 09, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
Franz Trüby?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 08:24:24 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 08:30:09 AM
Reinhard von Koenig-Fachsenfeld ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 08:54:18 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 09:10:12 AM
Rudolf Schleicher ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 09:42:43 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 10:10:02 AM
Did this designer work for another German car make before/after BMW ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 10:22:42 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 10:29:05 AM
Did he work for Ford ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 11:03:08 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 11:15:35 AM
Boyke Boyer ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 11:42:07 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: SeaLion on August 09, 2015, 11:45:08 AM
Wilhelm Hofmeister
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 12:01:50 PM
Uwe Bahnsen ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 12:16:27 PM
Twice no
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 02:30:27 PM
Was this designer born before 1940 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2015, 02:58:39 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 09, 2015, 07:04:26 PM
Klaus Kapitza ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 10, 2015, 04:46:48 PM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 10, 2015, 05:47:01 PM
Erich Palm ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 11, 2015, 02:25:42 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: pnegyesi on August 11, 2015, 02:27:45 AM
Albrecht von Goertz?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 11, 2015, 02:31:14 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 11, 2015, 02:32:40 AM
Is this designer still alive ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 11, 2015, 02:47:10 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 11, 2015, 02:53:42 AM
Was this designer born in the 1930s ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 11, 2015, 03:01:49 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 11, 2015, 03:21:37 AM
Between 1930 and 1935 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 11, 2015, 03:24:18 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 11, 2015, 03:29:27 AM
1932 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 11, 2015, 03:50:49 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 11, 2015, 05:04:25 AM
1933 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 11, 2015, 05:19:45 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 11, 2015, 05:34:15 AM
1931 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 11, 2015, 05:35:24 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 11, 2015, 07:46:07 AM
I'm not very lucky with this puzzle !

1934 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 11, 2015, 07:47:25 AM
No  ;D
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: oko94 on August 11, 2015, 07:52:15 AM
Dammit ! 1935 ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 11, 2015, 07:59:16 AM
Yes, I hope it will help you.
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: grobmotorix on August 12, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Hans A. Muth?
Title: Re: Wendax 1629
Post by: Wendax on August 13, 2015, 03:02:28 AM
Tatatataaaah! It is indeed a Hans A. Muth design. One more point for you.