No need for a windscreen?
For one point, please respond and identify this car.
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French marque?
No
German marque?
Ja
1914 NSU with German body by Autenrieth?
No
AGA?
Audi Type C 14/35 PS circa 1913?
Neither AGA nor Audi
Benz 8/20 PS circa 1914?
Elite?
Neither Benz nor Elite
C. Benz Söhne?
No
Apollo?
Adler?
Neither Apollo nor Adler
was the manufacturer active both before and after 1st WW?
Yes
Better known manufacturer?
Not one of the best known ones, but not obscure. We had the manufacturer on AP before.
Beckmann?
Dürkopp P 10 (10/30 PS)?
Neither Beckmann nor Dürkopp
Ehrhardt?
Might this be a ca. 1919 Phänomen?
Fulmina 8/22 PS?
Not Ehrhardt or Fulmina, but Phänomen.
Locked for grobmotorix to supply the name of one of the two possible models.
I´d go for the 1920-24 model 16/45 first.
Hope I´m right...
Yes, that's what I think it is (or a 10/30 PS).
One more point for you.
Forest photo.
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Presto?
No
Hermann and Marta were on the way to the Berlin Kissen-Ausstellung, still busy knitting the final touches to their Woollen Starfish Cushion as they trundled along. Their previous entry, the Woollen Octopus Cushion, had been a great success.
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Made in Germany ?
Yes
Was the manufacturer active only between WWI and WWII ?
No
Was the manufacturer still active after WWII ?
Yes, under a different name
1921 Benz 10-30 hp?
No
Was the company located in what became DDR ?
Yes
Elite 12/40 PS Typ E12 ?
No
Wanderer?
AGA ?
Twice no
Grille and bonnet are very close to the aforementioned Elite : is it Elite-related ?
No
Simson Typ F ?
Dürkopp?
Twice no
Ley?
No
Hansa-LLoyd?
No
Dux?
After WWII, was the newly named company building passenger cars or rather vans/trucks/buses ?
The latter
related to Steyr?
Phänomen ?
Typ M.T.C. 16/45 ?
Yes, probably a Phänomen 16/45 PS.
Thanks for my 640th point !
An article in a well known prewar car blog just pointed out that there were Phänomen cars of that time with four resp. seven hood louvers. You can seeboth versions in the two last pictures. It might be a differentiating fact between the 10/30 PS (four louvers) and the 16/45 PS (bigger engine, more air needed for cooling, seven louvers).
Another one:
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The same car as the second one in reply #71: