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Solved: PN #812 -- 1928 Faun truck by Peter Bauer, System Neuy
« on: October 18, 2015, 04:43:30 AM »
A way to empty trash bins.

You have to work hard for this point: I need you to ID the chassis, the unique trash-bin emptying system, the coachbuilder and the year for a point
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Re: PN #812
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2015, 07:30:43 AM »
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Re: PN #812
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2015, 10:35:16 AM »
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Re: PN #812
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2015, 12:36:31 PM »
Is it a Kuka system ?

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Re: PN #812
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2015, 12:50:12 PM »
It is not a Kuka system
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Re: PN #812
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2015, 04:14:47 PM »
1933 Faun refuse truck by Peter Bauer, System Neuy, built for Hamburger Stadtreinigung

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Re: PN #812
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2015, 11:08:15 PM »
oh well, it is almost perfect. This "Mülltrommelwagen" (Rubbish Drum Vehicle) was built in 1928. Otherwise it is correct. This was presented as an alternative to the Kuka system.
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Re: Solved: PN #812 -- 1928 Faun truck by Peter Bauer, System Neuy
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2015, 02:27:34 AM »
There is a nice silent movie from 1928 about this system on YouTube, just search for "Stummfilm: Hamburg und seine Müllabfuhr 1928".

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Re: Solved: PN #812 -- 1928 Faun truck by Peter Bauer, System Neuy
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2015, 06:09:11 AM »
great, thanks
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Re: Solved: PN #812 -- 1928 Faun truck by Peter Bauer, System Neuy
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2015, 11:45:52 AM »
I was an hour or so behind Gerd on this one but strangely enough also stumbled on Hamburg when looking for photos of vintage German refuse trucks.

The photos below do not show the same truck nor, I guess, the same system but they are quite similar and all trucks seem to also be of the Faun marque.  Interesting puzzle.

The 1943 group is clearly stated as a fleet of earlier vehicles.

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Re: Solved: PN #812 -- 1928 Faun truck by Peter Bauer, System Neuy
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2015, 03:55:07 PM »
The first and the third picture show refuse trucks of the same system. The first one is a truck like the one featured in the silent movie mentioned above. The second picture is another refuse collecting system, could be Peter Bauer's Colonia system.
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Re: Solved: PN #812 -- 1928 Faun truck by Peter Bauer, System Neuy
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2015, 04:34:47 PM »
Thank you Gerd:

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Re: Solved: PN #812 -- 1928 Faun truck by Peter Bauer, System Neuy
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2015, 05:59:41 PM »
Thank you, Gerd, for the link to the video which I have now watched.

Interesting, the differences in services offered to perhaps "upper middle class" households in 1928 compared to today.

Pat and I live in what I would consider an "upper middle class" home in a suburb of Atlanta, Georgia USA.  We pay not only the regular city and county taxes for various types of "general" waste disposal but also a private company to take away our household waste on a weekly basis.

We have one large barrel for "normal" waste and one for "recyclable" waste.  Both mounted on wheels.

In watching your video, it seems there is a dedicated person to fetch and then return the barrel inside the gate to the household.  He does nothing else.

In our case, the house is more or less 1,000 feet from the roadway (300 meters), and it is all downhill and uphill as the house is on a hill.  It is our responsibility to take both containers down to the street and once they are unloaded, bring them back up the hill.

The chap on our waste truck (there is a driver and a "dumper") rides on a pedestal at the rear of the truck and he jumps off at each home, grabs the two containers and fits them into a dump system similar to the subject of the quiz except that it is a single central entry dumping hole and the system mechanically picks up the container and dumps it.  One at a time.

After that is done, said "dumper" does just that with our containers.  He just throws them back towards the curbing, often tipping them over and the truck moves on.

Quite a difference from the 1920s I think.

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Re: Solved: PN #812 -- 1928 Faun truck by Peter Bauer, System Neuy
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2017, 04:10:30 PM »
An article:

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Re: Solved: PN #812 -- 1928 Faun truck by Peter Bauer, System Neuy
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2017, 03:53:05 PM »
Another picture of the dustbin gang: