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Solved: PN #808 -- Ivry 9 HP, 1909
« on: October 11, 2015, 09:57:47 AM »
Please identify this car for a point
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2015, 09:35:30 AM »
Experts?
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2015, 07:29:39 AM »
Professionals?
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2015, 07:34:40 AM »
European marque?

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Re: PN #808
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2015, 07:51:44 AM »
yes
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2015, 08:05:57 AM »
German marque?

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Re: PN #808
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2015, 09:14:49 AM »
1905 Demeester?

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Re: PN #808
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2015, 10:34:59 AM »
not German, not Demester, not 1905
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2015, 03:03:53 PM »
French marque?

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Re: PN #808
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2015, 03:08:25 PM »
French
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2015, 03:30:25 PM »
Manufactured in a Paris suburb?

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Re: PN #808
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2015, 04:28:04 PM »
yes
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2015, 02:33:21 AM »
OK, I'll start in the suburb of Levallois-Perret.  The mark is probably more obscure, but this vehicle,in many ways, resembles a well known marque.  Could this be an early Delage circa 1906?

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Re: PN #808
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2015, 06:04:27 AM »
not from Levallois-Perret and not a Delage and not 1906
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2015, 11:18:46 AM »
Moving on to Boulogne-Billancourt, perhaps an Astahl (or Helbe Astahl) 10/12 CV circa 1907.

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Re: PN #808
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2015, 02:01:41 PM »
no (3x :))
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2015, 02:17:07 PM »
Manufactured in 1905 or previously?

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Re: PN #808
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2015, 12:02:02 AM »
Later than 1905
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2015, 12:42:33 AM »
If I understand correctly, we have now established that this vehicle was manufactured 1908 or later.  Is this correct?

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Re: PN #808
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2015, 01:32:38 AM »
yes, that's right
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2015, 01:42:27 AM »
All right, we have ruled out Boulogne-Billancourt and Levallois-Perret so I'll move on to Courbevoie and try ENV which was manufactured in 1908 only.

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Re: PN #808
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2015, 03:50:35 PM »
not Courbevoie, so no ENV and not from 1908
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2015, 06:10:06 PM »
Levallois-Perret
Boulogne-Billancourt
Courbevoie

Next stop Ivry: Brasier circa 1909?

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Re: PN #808
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2015, 12:12:36 AM »
two out of three: Ivry and 1909 are correct. But it's not a Brasier.
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Re: PN #808
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2015, 12:33:18 AM »
Well then it must be a 1909 Ivry (6 CV?).