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Solved: PN #783 -- Buick by Regent Carriage Co, 1920
« on: August 02, 2015, 10:52:10 AM »
Ordinary car, ordinary coachwork to my eyes - but the caption begs to differ :) So I need three things for a point: donor (brand), coachbuilder and year.
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2015, 12:02:23 PM »
Experts?
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2015, 10:15:49 AM »
Professionals?
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2015, 10:46:25 AM »
European marque?

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Re: PN #783
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2015, 10:50:56 AM »
Coachbuilder was European, donor was sort of European
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2015, 11:11:10 AM »
"Sort of European", as in a non-European company building cars in Europe?

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Re: PN #783
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2015, 11:16:26 AM »
American brand?

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Re: PN #783
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2015, 11:25:46 AM »
exactly, an American brand assembled in Europe
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2015, 11:32:07 AM »
A brand of the Big Three?

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Re: PN #783
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2015, 11:35:43 AM »
Danish built Chevrolet circa 1923?

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Re: PN #783
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2015, 11:37:38 AM »
Late teen early 20's Buick and judging by the front mudguard mounted side lights, was the body made in the UK?

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Re: PN #783
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2015, 11:58:06 AM »
Locked for ropat53 as the only thing missing is the coachbuilder. A British-built Buick with a local body.
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2015, 04:54:17 PM »
Buick was easy, UK body guess also, but coach builder has proved to be very hard to find. I did find a 1913 British Buick ad that refers to Bedford English-built Coachwork?

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Re: PN #783
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2015, 03:00:55 AM »
not that. One more try before I unlock
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2015, 02:01:12 PM »
I can't find the puzzle car, but I'll try one more guess.
Was the body made by Hoyal?

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Re: PN #783
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2015, 02:31:39 PM »
no.

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Re: PN #783
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2015, 02:48:03 PM »
How about Nicholls & Son of Bedford?
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2015, 04:10:00 PM »
Elkington, they also made some Buick bodies?

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Re: PN #783
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2015, 10:06:20 PM »
twice no
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2015, 04:07:29 AM »
But then it could be Maythorn of Biggleswade, also not far from Bedford.
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2015, 04:32:48 AM »
not them. Apparently the caption was misleading, because it said that there is a very distinctive feature of this bodywork, a hallmark of the coachbuilder
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2015, 04:42:54 AM »
not them. Apparently the caption was misleading, because it said that there is a very distinctive feature of this bodywork, a hallmark of the coachbuilder
I suppose that's the treatment of the side window frames - I know I haven't seen that before, so I can't offer a coachbuilder on the basis of that clue, which is why I'm guessing around.
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2015, 05:34:47 AM »
Hamshaw?
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: PN #783
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2015, 05:56:42 AM »
no
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Re: PN #783
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2015, 10:05:49 AM »
A well known coach builder?