Author Topic: Solved -PJ686- 1957 Pasqualetti 750 Sport  (Read 10313 times)

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2015, 06:21:28 AM »
I'm going more obscure - Mandarini ?
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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2015, 07:18:04 AM »
Not Giaur Osca or Mandarini.

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2015, 07:33:27 AM »
I keep wondering why someone in Italy would import a Crosley engine when the Fiat was already freely available. If the car was installed with the Crosley engine in the US, why would it have an Italian body?

Confused.....

Paganelli?
 
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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2015, 07:49:00 AM »
...and if you knew which chassis it used!
Not Paganelli.
Time for a small clue: this care matches a Crosely engine with an italian chassis, taken from a popular car...but I'm pretty sure it was the only car with that chassis!

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2015, 07:50:45 AM »
Excerpts from Wikipedia :

"Tony Pompeo, an American car dealer of Italian origin, was pleased with the previous Bandini 1100 and 1100 sport he had purchased, so he explicitly asked Ilario Bandini for cars to run in the 750 cc engine capacity category. Pompeo sent a Crosley engine to Bandini for him to study and use. Lightweight and compact, this American engine was very versatile, having been used with boats, aircraft, and even in fire pumps. [...] With the modified Crosley engine, the 750 sports torpedo was launched, contesting scores of races: hill climbs, road courses, and airbase circuits, as well as challenging six and twelve hour endurance events, such as the 12 Hours of Sebring or Mille Miglia, both of which were World Sports Car Championship rounds."

"Following the Amica, Siata introduced the 300BC Barchetta Sport Spider in 1951. The Barchetta Sport Spider was designed by Mario Revelli de Beaumont and built by Nuccio Bertone and Rocco Motto. Around 50 production models were created and predominantly featured either a 750 cc Crosley or 1100 cc Fiat engine."

So an Italian etceterini with Crosley engine is not that uncommon...

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2015, 07:52:44 AM »
I also found the web entry above, but we know it's neither of those makes.

Am I correct in thinking this is a one-off chassis built by an otherwise well-known maker?
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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2015, 07:57:25 AM »
I also found the web entry above, but we know it's neither of those makes.

Am I correct in thinking this is a one-off chassis built by an otherwise well-known maker?
The builder of this car (who build other specials too ;) ), took a Crosely engine (that he tuned) and a chassis to make this Sport.
The chassis was not from a one-off or expecially made for him, but taken from a well known maker.

BTW: Nardi used a Crosley engine too.
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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2015, 08:02:57 AM »
Don't believe it but ask anyway : de Tomaso ? May be the car is younger than it looks ?

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2015, 08:07:47 AM »
Not De Tomaso...how old do you think it is?

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2015, 08:16:28 AM »
Innocenti chassis ?

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #60 on: September 26, 2015, 08:17:37 AM »
Not Innocenti, but you are really on the right path.

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2015, 08:23:34 AM »
Autobianchi?!
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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #62 on: September 26, 2015, 08:24:21 AM »
Autobianchi ?
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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2015, 08:26:58 AM »
Not Autobianchi.
(With right path I meant a maker you do not associate with racing car at all, not obscure but not active anymore)

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2015, 08:36:10 AM »
Italian chassis at all?

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2015, 08:37:11 AM »
Surely not a Vespa?
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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2015, 08:42:02 AM »
Prewar chassis ? Pretty much all postwar Italian car brands have already been mentioned...

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2015, 08:42:55 AM »
Italian postwar but not Vespa (but may be a connection there...).
I believe it's a matter of minutes, now...

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2015, 08:46:49 AM »
Piaggio ?
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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #69 on: September 26, 2015, 08:50:13 AM »
Volpe?

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #70 on: September 26, 2015, 09:11:48 AM »
Not Volpe or Piaggio, but close to both.

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #71 on: September 26, 2015, 09:14:21 AM »
Volugrafo?

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #72 on: September 26, 2015, 09:15:47 AM »
Not Volugrafo.

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #73 on: September 26, 2015, 09:24:11 AM »
Isetta chassis ?

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Re: PJ - 686
« Reply #74 on: September 26, 2015, 09:27:19 AM »
Panther?