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Re: si_296
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2022, 05:16:06 PM »
Air-cooled?

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Re: si_296
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2022, 09:12:16 AM »
Twice: No.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_296
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2022, 09:45:37 AM »
Borgward?
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Re: si_296
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2022, 10:07:15 AM »
No.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_296
« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2022, 10:09:02 AM »
Krupp?
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Re: si_296
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2022, 11:35:46 AM »
Yes. Please answer the open questions now.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_296
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2022, 10:18:18 AM »
von Lienen?
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2022, 10:45:37 AM »
No.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_296
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2022, 11:16:24 AM »
Ludewig?
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Re: si_296
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2022, 03:22:50 AM »
No.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_296
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2022, 07:59:13 AM »
Kässbohrer?
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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2022, 04:41:21 PM »
No.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_296
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2022, 08:50:57 AM »
Gaubschat?
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Re: si_296
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2022, 09:03:48 AM »
Yes. Locked for three attempts to find the Krupp type designation and year of construction.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_296
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2022, 08:45:54 AM »
~1951 Krupp-Südwerke Titan?
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Re: si_296
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2022, 01:57:43 PM »
"Südwerke" is the correct name of the manufacturer. As a major armaments producer, the name "Krupp" had a negative connotation in the post-war period.
The bus is closely related to the "Titan", but has its own type designation. 1951 is wrong, but close.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_296
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2022, 02:53:11 PM »
AFAIK, Titan bus chassis was designated O80?
1952?
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Re: si_296
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2022, 03:26:47 PM »
Yes, it is a O 80, but not from 1952.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_296
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2022, 03:44:42 PM »
This photo signed with '1951'. If that's the same bus the year should be 1951 or earlier. So 1950, first year of Titan production?
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Re: si_296
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2022, 07:11:46 AM »
Yes, it is a Krupp O 80, "D-Zug der Landstraße" by Gaubschat from 1950. This is your next point.
I attach a newspaper article from September 1950 describing this bus. Series production of the basic vehicle, Krupp L 80 "Titan", was just starting in this period. Therefore, this is probably the first O 80 ever.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke