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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2015 => Topic started by: Paul Jaray on February 20, 2015, 04:56:06 AM
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What is this?
1 point for you!
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any relation to sorrel?
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None...
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is there any ties with meadows frisky?
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Nope.. :-\
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is this car a self-built one-off?
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I have not much info about but there should be a company behind this car.
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is there any citroen in this car?
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I don't think.
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Time for some clues.
The name behind this car was connected with a quite known and big maker.
This car is based on one of those car's engine.
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is this car an NSU, powered by wankel rotary engine?
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Not NSU bits there...
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Panhard?
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Not Panhard.
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Is it French?
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Not French.
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Pros?
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Ford-based?
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Yes!
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Peel Mk1 ?
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Not Peel.
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Excell from the UK?
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Excell from the UK?
;)
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Is there a Fairthorpe connection?
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Nope.
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Is this car a homebuilt called the "XXX Special" or something similar? I still think that's a Peel glassfibre body which someone has fitted to a Ford 1172 s/v base.
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It is quite particular.
Not based on a 1172.
Not called Special.
Some interesting features there ;)
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This is a real puzzler - I think it may have Anglia 105E components, judging by the wheels. If this is so, I'll have a better chance of finding out what it is.
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This is a real puzzler - I think it may have Anglia 105E components, judging by the wheels. If this is so, I'll have a better chance of finding out what it is.
About the engine: bore 2.6 stroke 3.64 ;)
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My head hurts. I haven't done calculations like that since I left school in 1969. My sums say it's a Zephyr engine.
No it's not - my second working says it's 25.03ci per cylinder. That's 410cc per cylinder.
So it's around 1600cc if it's a 4-cylinder motor, or 2440cc if it's a 6-cylinder, so my Zephyr guess could be right.
NURSE!!!!!
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I don't know...I only know bore & stroke ;D
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It's rather (2.6/2) * (2.6/2) * 3.64 * Pi = 19,32 Cu.in per cylinder (or 316.7 cc per cylinder). In case it is a four-cylinder engine, we would have 1267 cc displacement, or a little less regarding how many digits you take for Pi.
The displacement would fit a Standard Ten, but that was a long-stroke engine (100 mm = 39.3 in).
Then there is the Hillman Minx engine: 1265 cc, 2.56 × 3.74 in, which would come closer.
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It's rather (2.6/2) * (2.6/2) * 3.64 * Pi = 19,32 Cu.in per cylinder (or 316.7 cc per cylinder). In case it is a four-cylinder engine, we would have 1267 cc displacement, or a little less regarding how many digits you take for Pi.
The displacement would fit a Standard Ten, but that was a long-stroke engine (100 mm = 39.3 in).
Then there is the Hillman Minx engine: 1265 cc, 2.56 × 3.74 in, which would come closer.
We had to hand back our slide-rules when we left school. ;D
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I tried all the options (4,6 & 8 ) but couldn' find the matching unit.
I know they already modified a Ford V8 in the 30s.
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Batten ?
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Not Batten or a race car.
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The 105E engine was a brilliant little thing. Bore 80.96mm (3 3/16"), stroke 48.41mm (1 29/32"). No wonder it could rev so high when modified. If it was much modified, the centre main cast iron bearing cap could fail and those who knew this would fit a steel unit to prevent expensive problems.
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I don't know if this may help but this car is mid-engined!
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I don't know if this may help but this car is mid-engined!
QUE!!!?????
Now that I've calmed down - it's Ford mid-engined and built by a company with connections to Ford who had pre-war modified a Ford V8.
Was the builder a well-known franchised Ford dealer, like the Harrisons?
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I don't know if this may help but this car is mid-engined!
QUE!!!?????
Now that I've calmed down - it's Ford mid-engined and built by a company with connections to Ford who had pre-war modified a Ford V8.
Was the builder a well-known franchised Ford dealer, like the Harrisons?
so far so good... ;)
(I don't know if it is well known...)
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I know you probably won't know the answer, but my mind has me thinking strange ideas. It would have been very odd for a garage to think in terms of a mid-engined car at that time (for road use) - I wonder if they got the idea from the WW2 Bren Gun Carrier? Indeed I wonder if some of the components come from one of those.
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I am not sure if they actually build the car or just proposed it for sale.
They worked on at least 2 Ford V8s and in both cases they were aerodinamically shaped: streamlined body, vertical fin, covered wheels and rounded fenders (not all those elements in both cars, of course).
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W.J. Reynolds?
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Not Reynolds.
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Bristol Street Motors?
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Not them.
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An Allard connection?
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Not that I'm aware of.
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How many Ford dealers were there? It can be solved.
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How many Ford dealers were there? It can be solved.
I'll be in my coffin by the time I've gone through them all! ;D
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...but how many of them proposed their versions too?
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Mann Egerton?
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Not that...
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Nobody else wants to join in the game.
Was the builder located in the London area?
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Middlesex.
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Dagenham Motors?
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Not them and not that known.
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Keep looking in the 1st part of the alphabet. ;)
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It looks remarkably like this Campbell (apart from the front end) but I suppose there's no connection?:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=20207.msg207221#msg207221
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Not Campbell, but 1st letter is right. ;)
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Not Caffyn? They were dealers but I think BMC..
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Not Caffyn.
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Cooper?
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Not Cooper.
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Corley?
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Not Co.... or Ca...
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Charlesworth?
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Chiltern sold some Ford-based cars - was this a try at building their own car?
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Chiltern sold some Ford-based cars - was this a try at building their own car?
Not Chiltern
Charlesworth?
Not them, but Cha______
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Charnwood?
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Not that.
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Chandler ?
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Channing?
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One syllable?
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No x 3
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Chambers?
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Chadwick?
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Chalmers ?
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No x 3
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Chapman ?
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More than two syllables?
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Chartwell?
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Chaxxxxxx.
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Chatteris?
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Charteris ?
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No x 2
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Chatfield?
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Not that.
Big clue...we are looking for a Ford dealer...but Ford products where many...
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Hmmm... Running out of 9-letter names beginning with Cha!
Is it a common English surname or perhaps French-sounding?
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Other clues: same business have the same name but in 2 parts ChaXX Xxxe and they are 2 English words.
British Ford Dealer, active for a long period and not only in passenger cars...
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Chaingate ?
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How about Chalk Lane?
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No X 2.
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Chairmate ?
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Is the second part "vale" ?
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No x 2.
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Chase Side?
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Chase Side?
Yes! :applause: :applause: :drink:
This car was for sale with a name: Fxxx Sxxxx Cxx.
Locked for you.
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Chase Side?
Yes! :applause: :applause: :drink:
This car was for sale with a name: Fxxx Sxxxx Cxx.
Locked for you.
Chaseside Foxx Sxxxx CaX
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Chase Side?
Yes! :applause: :applause: :drink:
This car was for sale with a name: Fxxx Sxxxx Cxx.
Locked for you.
Chaseside Foxx Sxxxx CaX
Thanks. If I wait until tomorrow will you give me the rest of it?!
I've spent hours looking for this thing but can only pull up hundreds of pictures of heavy machinery for lifting and moving, apart from one picture of a Chaseside Ford V8 from 1933 and the mention of a 2-seat Roadster from the 1930s with huge fin behind the seats..
So I was going to ask if the first and last words were 'Ford' and 'Car'; the only word I can think of that fits in the middle is 'Super'.
Is the answer actually out there on the 'Net?
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Take your time, it's your point anyway now. Just want to give you the chance to finish it ;)
Ford Sxxxxx car. I'm sorry, I forgot an x before. 50% of the letters you guessed (u p e r) are there.
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Well, I originally wanted to guess Ford Sports Car but couldn't because there weren't enough x's for that and Ford Sport Car didn't sound right.
So, is it as simple as that? Chaseside Ford Sports Car?
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Ford Spxxxt Car...
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Ford Sprint Car?
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:bow:
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Thanks PJ.
That ad looks very much like it's from a familiar source; I poured through their ads but failed to find it!
Maybe Search by Image will bring it up now!
This was more like Chaseside's usual product, until they were taken over by JCB in the early 1960s (I believe Chaseside Engineering were under the same umbrella as Chaseside Motor Co, but I don't know that with absolute certainty):
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;)
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What is interesting about this car is the use of the term "mid-mounted". Mid-engined cars were still a decade away, although rear-engined cars had been around since the turn of the century. I think the builders may well have used the term quite literally in their advertisement - they call the car a "sprint" car and say it can be used for weekend meets. I have a feeling that the engine was placed where a passenger would normally sit. So the car could be used for road work by the driver only, but was more suitable for competition work.
It would be really good to know more about this car.
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Chase Side Motors still exist, in the same location.
I have emailed them to see if they have any historical records which could provide a bit more info, but I have not received a reply (yet, I hope!).
Incidentally I just tried Google Search by Image but it does NOT bring up any results for this car; maybe it's not on the 'Net but from an old mag..
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Chase Side Motors still exist, in the same location.
I have emailed them to see if they have any historical records which could provide a bit more info, but I have not received a reply (yet, I hope!).
Incidentally I just tried Google Search by Image but it does NOT bring up any results for this car; maybe it's not on the 'Net but from an old mag..
It looks like an ad from an old issue of Motor Sport magazine. BTW the last time I tried to obtain stuff from their archives it had reverted to "membership only". Drat.
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Chase Side Motors still exist, in the same location.
I have emailed them to see if they have any historical records which could provide a bit more info, but I have not received a reply (yet, I hope!).
Incidentally I just tried Google Search by Image but it does NOT bring up any results for this car; maybe it's not on the 'Net but from an old mag..
It looks like an ad from an old issue of Motor Sport magazine. BTW the last time I tried to obtain stuff from their archives it had reverted to "membership only". Drat.
Yes, that's the 'familiar source' I was referring to.
Well, I've exceeded my 5 free views as well so I tried to Register but couldn't get anywhere (maybe you actually need to be a subscriber to register, which I'm not). It still let me in again though but didn't say anything about free views or otherwise!
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That ad cames indeed from Motor Sport, 1954.
I tried to look for more too but I only found their commercial vehicles and few references to some coachbuilts Ford.
I used to view Motor Sport without restrictions, but now it seems they chenged policy....
(...but I already took all that i needed ;D )
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That ad cames indeed from Motor Sport, 1954.
I tried to look for more too but I only found their commercial vehicles and few references to some coachbuilts Ford.
I used to view Motor Sport without restrictions, but now it seems they chenged policy....
(...but I already took all that i needed ;D )
I used to buy every copy of Motor Sport the day it appeared, mainly to pore through all the fantastic ads at the back.
The Internet has spoiled all that though and the ads that do appear there and in the Classic mags all have a familiar look about them now.
The best ad I ever found was back at the time of the fuel crisis in the 1970s when everyone was looking to off-load their big-engined cars; it was a Ferrari Daytona for sale for £1995! Believe me I spent days working out how I could come up with that much money (that was just twice the value of the TVR Vixen I had at that time) and still be able to insure and run the car, but decided I couldn't! That ranks as one of my bigger mistakes, along with selling my Ferrari Dino for £9500 in 1983...! £325000 today...
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The small ads were always the best thing about the mag in those days.
Not quite up to your standards, but I had an immaculate '74 Escort 1300 Sport which I bought and sold for £1000 - have you seen what people pay these days for a Mk1 shell, let alone the innards?
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The small ads were always the best thing about the mag in those days.
Not quite up to your standards, but I had an immaculate '74 Escort 1300 Sport which I bought and sold for £1000 - have you seen what people pay these days for a Mk1 shell, let alone the innards?
Yes - and I saw an early Mini was sold at auction for over £34000 a couple of weeks ago! Where will it all end? In tears no doubt, as last time...
I sold my 1965 Mini-Cooper for £250, although that was a few years ago...!