Author Topic: Solved -PJ651- Ford Sprint Car for sale by Chaseside in 1954 (Read 3660 times)

nicanary · « **Reply #25 on:** March 01, 2015, 05:55:53 AM »

Is this car a homebuilt called the "XXX Special" or something similar? I still think that's a Peel glassfibre body which someone has fitted to a Ford 1172 s/v base.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #26 on:** March 01, 2015, 06:05:04 AM »

It is quite particular.
Not based on a 1172.
Not called Special.
Some interesting features there

richard cuyler · « **Reply #27 on:** March 01, 2015, 07:48:54 AM »

This is a real puzzler - I think it may have Anglia 105E components, judging by the wheels. If this is so, I'll have a better chance of finding out what it is.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #28 on:** March 03, 2015, 03:22:49 AM »

Quote from: richard cuyler on March 01, 2015, 07:48:54 AM

This is a real puzzler - I think it may have Anglia 105E components, judging by the wheels. If this is so, I'll have a better chance of finding out what it is.

About the engine: bore 2.6 stroke 3.64

nicanary · « **Reply #29 on:** March 03, 2015, 06:52:19 AM »

My head hurts. I haven't done calculations like that since I left school in 1969. My sums say it's a Zephyr engine.

No it's not - my second working says it's 25.03ci per cylinder. That's 410cc per cylinder.

So it's around 1600cc if it's a 4-cylinder motor, or 2440cc if it's a 6-cylinder, so my Zephyr guess could be right.

NURSE!!!!!

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #30 on:** March 03, 2015, 06:57:35 AM »

I don't know...I only know bore & stroke

Wendax · « **Reply #31 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:27:09 AM »

It's rather (2.6/2) * (2.6/2) * 3.64 * Pi = 19,32 Cu.in per cylinder (or 316.7 cc per cylinder). In case it is a four-cylinder engine, we would have 1267 cc displacement, or a little less regarding how many digits you take for Pi.

The displacement would fit a Standard Ten, but that was a long-stroke engine (100 mm = 39.3 in).
Then there is the Hillman Minx engine: 1265 cc, 2.56 × 3.74 in, which would come closer.

nicanary · « **Reply #32 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:35:52 AM »

Quote from: Wendax on March 03, 2015, 07:27:09 AM

It's rather (2.6/2) * (2.6/2) * 3.64 * Pi = 19,32 Cu.in per cylinder (or 316.7 cc per cylinder). In case it is a four-cylinder engine, we would have 1267 cc displacement, or a little less regarding how many digits you take for Pi.

The displacement would fit a Standard Ten, but that was a long-stroke engine (100 mm = 39.3 in).
Then there is the Hillman Minx engine: 1265 cc, 2.56 × 3.74 in, which would come closer.

We had to hand back our slide-rules when we left school.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #33 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:43:24 AM »

I tried all the options (4,6 & 8 ) but couldn' find the matching unit.
I know they already modified a Ford V8 in the 30s.

nicanary · « **Reply #34 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:49:39 AM »

Batten ?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #35 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:50:55 AM »

Not Batten or a race car.

richard cuyler · « **Reply #36 on:** March 04, 2015, 07:27:33 AM »

The 105E engine was a brilliant little thing. Bore 80.96mm (3 3/16"), stroke 48.41mm (1 29/32"). No wonder it could rev so high when modified. If it was much modified, the centre main cast iron bearing cap could fail and those who knew this would fit a steel unit to prevent expensive problems.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #37 on:** March 04, 2015, 07:30:09 AM »

I don't know if this may help but this car is mid-engined!

nicanary · « **Reply #38 on:** March 04, 2015, 07:39:53 AM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 04, 2015, 07:30:09 AM

I don't know if this may help but this car is mid-engined!

QUE!!!?

?

Now that I've calmed down - it's Ford mid-engined and built by a company with connections to Ford who had pre-war modified a Ford V8.

Was the builder a well-known franchised Ford dealer, like the Harrisons?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #39 on:** March 04, 2015, 07:48:15 AM »

Quote from: nicanary on March 04, 2015, 07:39:53 AM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 04, 2015, 07:30:09 AM
I don't know if this may help but this car is mid-engined!

QUE!!!??

Now that I've calmed down - it's Ford mid-engined and built by a company with connections to Ford who had pre-war modified a Ford V8.

Was the builder a well-known franchised Ford dealer, like the Harrisons?

so far so good...

(I don't know if it is well known...)

nicanary · « **Reply #40 on:** March 05, 2015, 09:11:32 AM »

I know you probably won't know the answer, but my mind has me thinking strange ideas. It would have been very odd for a garage to think in terms of a mid-engined car at that time (for road use) - I wonder if they got the idea from the WW2 Bren Gun Carrier? Indeed I wonder if some of the components come from one of those.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #41 on:** March 05, 2015, 09:34:04 AM »

I am not sure if they actually build the car or just proposed it for sale.
They worked on at least 2 Ford V8s and in both cases they were aerodinamically shaped: streamlined body, vertical fin, covered wheels and rounded fenders (not all those elements in both cars, of course).

Wendax · « **Reply #42 on:** March 05, 2015, 09:41:33 AM »

W.J. Reynolds?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #43 on:** March 05, 2015, 10:18:43 AM »

Not Reynolds.

nicanary · « **Reply #44 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:23:33 AM »

Bristol Street Motors?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #45 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:50:06 AM »

Not them.

D-type · « **Reply #46 on:** March 08, 2015, 02:45:17 PM »

An Allard connection?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #47 on:** March 08, 2015, 03:14:30 PM »

Not that I'm aware of.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #48 on:** March 23, 2015, 05:56:51 AM »

How many Ford dealers were there? It can be solved.

nicanary · « **Reply #49 on:** March 23, 2015, 06:41:11 AM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 23, 2015, 05:56:51 AM

How many Ford dealers were there? It can be solved.

I'll be in my coffin by the time I've gone through them all!

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