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Offline Paul Jaray

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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2014, 03:35:57 AM »
There are 3 names involved.
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2014, 04:04:33 AM »
Did at least one of them race in Formula 3 in Italy before presenting this car?
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2014, 04:48:54 AM »
Those 3 names do not ring me any bell... if you can PM a link to a page with a list of pilots, I can check there. I did a search with each name plus 'F3' with no result.
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2014, 06:33:41 AM »
I don't have a definitive list of drivers, I wanted to use that information for further search. Looks like it wouldn't be fruitful, though :)
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2014, 08:08:31 AM »
I made a search through wikipedia or similar sites...I thought you knew a site where you can find a list of pilots...I don't know how to verify...according to my source, they were 2 ex mechanics (1 for a known swiss pilot, 1 for a company I don't know) and a student.
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2014, 10:17:06 AM »
The Swiss pilot is Clay Regazzoni, by any chance?

Was one of the related names Enzo Giorla 'Dovina' then?
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2014, 12:21:54 PM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on October 03, 2014, 08:08:31 AM
I made a search through wikipedia or similar sites...I thought you knew a site where you can find a list of pilots...I don't know how to verify...according to my source, they were 2 ex mechanics (1 for a known swiss pilot, 1 for a company I don't know) and a student.
Not Regazzoni and Giorla.
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2014, 05:57:10 AM »
Fredy Kessler, mechanic for Jurg Dubler?
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2014, 07:20:03 AM »
Quote from: nicanary on October 04, 2014, 05:57:10 AM
Fredy Kessler, mechanic for Jurg Dubler?
No & no.
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2014, 07:42:50 AM »
I've found out how difficult it is to research details of mechanics of the time. I'm trying to focus on the Swiss driver - it could of course be Jo Siffert, or maybe Silvio Moser or Charles Voegele. I know the answer you need is the name of his mechanic, but if I can work out the driver, the rest will follow.

Did the mechanic you seek work for Jo Siffert back when he was a privateer?
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2014, 07:57:33 AM »
Quote from: nicanary on October 04, 2014, 07:42:50 AM
I've found out how difficult it is to research details of mechanics of the time. I'm trying to focus on the Swiss driver - it could of course be Jo Siffert, or maybe Silvio Moser or Charles Voegele. I know the answer you need is the name of his mechanic, but if I can work out the driver, the rest will follow.

Did the mechanic you seek work for Jo Siffert back when he was a privateer?
Not Jo Siffert or Voegele  ;)
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2014, 08:19:20 AM »
So - Beat Schenker ?
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2014, 09:58:42 AM »
Quote from: nicanary on October 04, 2014, 08:19:20 AM
So - Beat Schenker ?
Not him...all names sound Italian.
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2014, 05:36:46 AM »
After days of searching, I still can't find other Silvio Moser's mechanics but Beat Schenker and (probably, as I'm not sure that I read the Italian text correctly) either Aldo Pessina or his mother (?!).
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2014, 04:01:05 AM »
Not Aldo Pessina or his mother...
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2014, 04:53:12 AM »
3 letters, 1st on is 'M'.
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2014, 05:20:55 AM »
The OP is trying to help us folks, so I reckon we could share information.

I have gone through all entry lists for F3 events in 1969 and 1970 in for Italy and southern France, and there is no mention of any car with three letters in the name starting with "M".

So the OP was probably correct - the car never raced, or certainly not in any important race. I suspect the builders quickly realised how uncompetitive it was.
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2014, 06:28:45 AM »
One of the builders was Michele de Guglielmo.
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2015, 07:37:22 AM »
Now just 2 letters are missing...
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2015, 07:40:39 AM »
MAO?
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2015, 07:45:05 AM »
 ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 21, 2014, 06:28:45 AM
One of the builders was Michele de Guglielmo.
MAO
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2015, 03:54:20 AM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 21, 2014, 06:28:45 AM
One of the builders was Michele de Guglielmo.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 19, 2014, 04:53:12 AM
3 letters, 1st on is 'M'.
Those are 2 different clues ;)
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2015, 04:02:16 AM »
MCG?
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2015, 04:12:53 AM »
Nope, but you got the clue right  ;)
MCG
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Re: PJ - 626
« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2015, 04:16:08 AM »
MGP?
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