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Solved -PJ536- Desert Speed Car by Rox Automobiles, 1984
« on: August 06, 2013, 12:25:47 PM »
What is this? 1 point for you.
I do not have the answer but I know it's name, when and why it was built and what powers it...and the missing part (who built it) is not an obscure name (but I don't know it).
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 08:24:09 PM »
Centerline wheels, ford bolt pattern. Ford mechanicals?
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2013, 01:48:18 PM »
Not Ford-engined.
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2013, 03:19:59 PM »
I can't even suppose what was the purpose of this car - clearly not a road-going one and hardly for tarmac with such tyres. Some kind of an autocross racer maybe?
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2013, 04:43:46 PM »
Is it a swamp racer?
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2013, 06:21:17 PM »
I thought it was the easiest of the lot!
Quote from: faksta on August 07, 2013, 03:19:59 PM
I can't even suppose what was the purpose of this car - clearly not a road-going one and hardly for tarmac with such tyres. Some kind of an autocross racer maybe?
Follow that path...
Not road-going, not autocross but somewhat close...
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 07, 2013, 04:43:46 PM
Is it a swamp racer?
Not that.
Think easy  ;)
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2013, 03:17:28 AM »
Is it a Rallye car? Maybe a Dakar experimental?
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2013, 06:42:08 AM »
Speedway/oval track racing?
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2013, 06:43:41 AM »
Baja buggy ?
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2013, 12:24:50 PM »
Or sand dragster

Changed my mind. Sand dragster would rather have by far more serious rear tyres.
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2013, 02:32:43 PM »
Quote from: GrahamClayton on August 08, 2013, 06:42:08 AM
Speedway/oval track racing?
Quote from: nicanary on August 08, 2013, 06:43:41 AM
Baja buggy ?
Nope...
Quote from: Allemano on August 08, 2013, 03:17:28 AM
Is it a Rallye car? Maybe a Dakar experimental?
Precisely! It was developed for the Paris-Dakar.

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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2013, 03:06:11 PM »
I've found it named "Desert Speed Cat" built in France in 1984. Equipped with a tuned Honda 1000cc engine with 140 BHP its structure was a monocoque made of carbon-fibre and a tubular frame. Curb weight was apparently only 260 kg. (!)
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2013, 03:14:00 PM »
So far so good!
That is what I have too.
I can add that top speed was 230km\h and that the equipe that built it was well known in the world of the automobile.
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2013, 03:17:47 PM »
What did I tell you? ;D
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2013, 03:20:08 PM »
...and now you know why I wasn't too afraid  ;D
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2013, 03:28:34 PM »
I must look in the racing mags of 1984, but that will take some time...
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2013, 03:40:06 AM »
Could it be related to Yves Sunhill? He raced a single-seater buggy in 1985 Dakar, result unknown (at least where I looked up), and in 1983 he had a VW engined buggy, also single seater.

P.S. That is, of course, in case the car was actually entered in one of Dakars and was not left unfinished or just raced elsewhere.
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2013, 07:13:00 AM »
Quote from: faksta on August 09, 2013, 03:40:06 AM
Could it be related to Yves Sunhill? He raced a single-seater buggy in 1985 Dakar, result unknown (at least where I looked up), and in 1983 he had a VW engined buggy, also single seater.

P.S. That is, of course, in case the car was actually entered in one of Dakars and was not left unfinished or just raced elsewhere.
I don't know....all I know is that, according to my source, the name (equipe) behind it is not obscure. 
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2013, 11:25:21 AM »
I would have said "Oreca", but with the same confidence as faksta..
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2013, 12:53:41 PM »
I have not the solution, you should find some proof.
I don't know if it may help:
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2013, 01:06:51 PM »
I already tried to decode the lettering, but was unable to find anything so far.
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2013, 02:03:45 PM »
Looks like ROX to me, but that doesn't ring any bells :(
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2013, 03:00:03 PM »
Quote from: faksta on August 09, 2013, 03:40:06 AM
Could it be related to Yves Sunhill? He raced a single-seater buggy in 1985 Dakar, result unknown (at least where I looked up), and in 1983 he had a VW engined buggy, also single seater.

P.S. That is, of course, in case the car was actually entered in one of Dakars and was not left unfinished or just raced elsewhere.
...my picture cames from a December '84 issue...
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2013, 03:26:14 PM »
I understood you. That is why I looked through 1985 Dakar. I mentioned 1983 car only as an additional information :)
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Re: PJ - 536
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2013, 05:40:46 AM »
Any news?
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