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Solved - NEH 4387: Graber Rover 3500 V8 Coupé
« on: December 08, 2015, 07:07:34 AM »
What's this, built by whom - for 1 point?:

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Re: NEH 4387
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2015, 05:08:23 AM »
Easy Expert point..
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Re: NEH 4387
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2015, 10:44:25 AM »
Rover P6 by Graber?

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Re: NEH 4387
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2015, 04:10:23 AM »
Rover P6 by Graber?

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Re: NEH 4387
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2015, 10:52:42 AM »
1974 3500 cc V8

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Re: NEH 4387
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2015, 11:14:22 AM »
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Re: Solved - NEH 4387: Graber Rover 3500 V8 Coupé - 1974
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2015, 09:17:34 AM »
This Series 1 Rover P6 is earlier than 1974 as Hermann Graber died in 1970, when all coachbuilding work ceased. I believe this car was converted in 1967.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4387: Graber Rover 3500 V8 Coupé - 1974
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2015, 11:49:02 AM »
This Series 1 Rover P6 is earlier than 1974 as Hermann Graber died in 1970, when all coachbuilding work ceased. I believe this car was converted in 1967.

OK, thanks.
The 3500 was in production until 1976 so I thought the date was feasible but perhaps it's wrong then..
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Re: Solved - NEH 4387: Graber Rover 3500 V8 Coupé
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2015, 12:34:02 PM »
Since the P6 structure was a skeleton which was more of a spaceframe than a straightforward chassis, I wonder what Graber did to retain the bending strength.
Here's a picture of what I mean:
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Re: Solved - NEH 4387: Graber Rover 3500 V8 Coupé - 1974
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2015, 01:41:40 PM »
This Series 1 Rover P6 is earlier than 1974 as Hermann Graber died in 1970, when all coachbuilding work ceased. I believe this car was converted in 1967.

The 3500 was in production until 1976 so I thought the date was feasible but perhaps it's wrong then..
When Rover withdrew Alvis (TF) passenger car production in 1967, Graber was left needing a new base vehicle to continue its coachbuilding business, so chose the Rover P6, with its first 2-door P6 Coupe appearing at the 1967 Geneva Salon.  The V8 model illustrated is a Series 1 model, which was replaced by the facelifted Series P6 range in 1970, if this helps.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4387: Graber Rover 3500 V8 Coupé
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2015, 09:13:03 AM »
I thought the numerous hood vents/scoops on P6 3500's were necessary to clear the engine?  I don't see these vents on the puzzle image.

I have only found one online source indicating this is a V8 coupe.  All other sources say it is a P6 2000.

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Re: Solved - NEH 4387: Graber Rover 3500 V8 Coupé
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2015, 09:28:39 AM »
I thought the numerous hood vents/scoops on P6 3500's were necessary to clear the engine?  I don't see these vents on the puzzle image.

I have only found one online source indicating this is a V8 coupe.  All other sources say it is a P6 2000.

Graber did make a 2000 TC convertible in 1967, which had wire wheels.
I understood this car, with its US-market Rostyle wheels, was a later V8-engine car.
If you study the pictures the badging on the front wings is different, so it's definitely not the same car.
Whether it's a 3500 V8 though I can only go by the information that's out there..
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Re: Solved - NEH 4387: Graber Rover 3500 V8 Coupé
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2015, 09:52:28 AM »
And here is the 1967 2000 TC Coupé by Graber (with wire wheels). Is it the same car which was modified later to look like a V8 or did he make more than one?

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Re: Solved - NEH 4387: Graber Rover 3500 V8 Coupé
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2015, 09:57:09 AM »
According to the Austrian Rover club, at least two 2000 coupes were built by Graber in 1967/68 and one single 3500 V8 coupe in 1969.

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Re: Solved - NEH 4387: Graber Rover 3500 V8 Coupé
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2015, 01:13:41 PM »
According to the Austrian Rover club, at least two 2000 coupes were built by Graber in 1967/68 and one single 3500 V8 coupe in 1969.

Thanks.  Hopefully we've got to the bottom of it!
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Re: Solved - NEH 4387: Graber Rover 3500 V8 Coupé
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2017, 11:11:49 AM »
In 1968 it looked like that...