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What's this and on what is it based - for 1 point?:

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Re: NEH 4347
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 05:27:22 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 4347
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2015, 04:47:06 AM »
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Re: NEH 4347
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2015, 05:05:25 AM »
Neil Roshier's Jaguar-bodied Triumph Special

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Re: NEH 4347
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2015, 07:36:30 AM »
Neil Roshier's Jaguar-bodied Triumph Special

You've certainly got the right car but more details are needed!
On the site where I found it (which I don't seem able to find any more..) it had a name and details of its running gear, together with more specific details of its chassis.
It does look very E-type but whether it is actually an E-type body or a broad copy of it is open to conjecture (see below). Personally I don't think it is (look at the wheelarches, windscreen, door hinges etc).
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Re: NEH 4347
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2015, 08:17:59 AM »
Ok, I'll look for more. It was found on a Triumph Herald chassis that did not fit it.
There are speculations about a JWF Italia coupe body, but nothing sure about it in the blog where I found that pic.

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Re: NEH 4347
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2015, 08:33:07 AM »
This is what its owner had in mind at the beginning of this year.
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So I suspect that what I have is a special made from the Triumph floorpan and chassis/screen with an E-Type body copy cut and shut to fit the Triumph floorpan/screen/chassis

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Re: NEH 4347
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2015, 09:00:59 AM »
Yes, but I think he's just guessing about the E-type body because it looks a bit similar.  Others think it's a Milano body with an ill-fitting MGB windscreen..
Still looking for its intended mechanicals but forget the name as I don't think it was really intended to be its name at all...
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Re: NEH 4347
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2015, 09:34:48 AM »
It's owner has posted in a lot of different websites, always with the same conclusions.
According to what he knew till February, "the previous owner wanted to fit Alfa Romeo running gear".
I'm looking for newer posts of him, but so far it all ended in February, 2015.
In March he was "looking at a swing spring conversion to a Mk1 Herald for the GRP body project".
I'm going to ask him directly ;)

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Re: NEH 4347
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2015, 10:03:21 AM »
Yes, Alfa running gear was the intention.
He also intended to fit 'Alfa Dedion' suspension, which is why the thread was headed 'Alfa Dedion', which looked like what he called it but clearly isn't!
I'm going to give you your point and move this to solved but would be interested in what the owner has to say in the event you get a reply from him.
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few suggestions, but none seem to fully lead to any clear identification

He still have no clues :/

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Well this was a surprise to find!
Paul was absolutely correct I still have no firm clue as to the origin of the body. The floor pan was clearly moulded off a Triumph Herald as it has all of the floor pan ribs and indentations, including holes etc. The sills however are far too high and are similar to an E-Type jag as it the door curvature, door length and height in relation to the sill. The roof and rear quarter panels have been cut down to narrow them and alter their shape - which we found out when we stripped some paint. The front clip clearly came out of a mould - but it does not match any known kit/car/special I have been able to find. It is quite possibly a one-off, whoever did it had quite a lot of skill.
Not much has happened to it since the images were taken - my 16 year old son has taken a liking to it and what father can dismiss a son's interest in old cars!
Due to Australian road rules, were I to construct a chassis and use the Alfa running gear I have stored I would need to register the car as an individually constructed vehicle and I would need to meet emissions standards. This has made me follow the path of returning the car to what it was - mostly. I have agreed to purchase a rusty Triumph Herald that had a Nissan A14 engine and gearbox installed in it in the early 1980's. I can make the argument that in keeping all of the original running gear, scuttle and chassis I am simply changing the body shape. It will still need engineer approval, but this route means the car will run again.  Someone, somewhere put a lot of work into this and I feel that the car should be saved.

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Hello and thanks for your post; good to hear from you.
You've certainly got a job on your hands there but good luck.  Hopefully it will be finished one day!
Keep us informed; we'd all be very interested in your progress.  As you can see we on this site love this kind of thing!
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