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Describe what this contraption is and how it was built as well as where it is seen in this photo from when - for 1 point:

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Re: NEH 4101
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2015, 05:06:40 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 4101
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2015, 08:20:39 AM »
is it a soviet self-built?

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Re: NEH 4101
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2015, 09:27:03 AM »
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Re: NEH 4101
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2015, 09:55:54 AM »
I found a car that looks very close to this,but not sure if its the same car,the car I found is called Virazh-2 built by V,Sokolov in 1969, it looks like a cycle car?

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Re: NEH 4101
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2015, 10:10:25 AM »
I found a car that looks very close to this,but not sure if its the same car,the car I found is called Virazh-2 built by V,Sokolov in 1969, it looks like a cycle car?

It is a bit similar but not the puzzle car.
The Virazh-2 is pictured below:

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Re: NEH 4101
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2015, 01:29:47 PM »
is it a hand-built soviet velomobile?

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Re: NEH 4101
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2015, 06:12:58 PM »
is it a hand-built soviet velomobile?

No, it's not a velomobile.
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Re: NEH 4101
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2015, 09:52:15 PM »
Its a Russian "home built" supposedly modeled after a Studebaker Avanti in the 1974. Built by bolting 2 motorcycles together and building the body around them. Picture taken in Moscow.

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Re: NEH 4101
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2015, 04:09:53 AM »
Its a Russian "home built" supposedly modeled after a Studebaker Avanti in the 1974. Built by bolting 2 motorcycles together and building the body around them. Picture taken in Moscow.

Exactly, yes, though I think you need a fair bit of imagination to see it as an Avanti.  The story goes that Loewy himself did though and took a photograph of it!  I suspect any resemblance was probably coincidental...
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Here is the excerpt of Loewy's book "Design industriel". It's not just "the story goes…", he wrote it himself - he was easily bragging in every occasion, yes. The second car was the subject of one of Arunas former puzzles:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11776.0
Yet I don't believe that the resemblance is coincidental, and I guess he's right here. See the general coke bottle shape that he introduced in the Avanti, the headlights, the bumps on the hood -only one, asymmetrical, on the Avanti, true ...
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The Virazh-2 and the Avanti replica are so similar in concept and realization that I would be surprised if they were unrelated (or it's a striking case of synchronicity).

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Here is the excerpt of Loewy's book "Design industriel". It's not just "the story goes…", he wrote it himself - he was easily bragging in every occasion, yes. The second car was the subject of one of Arunas former puzzles:http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11776.0
Yet I don't believe that the resemblance is coincidental, and I guess he's right here. See the general coke bottle shape that he introduced in the Avanti, the headlights, the bumps on the hood -only one, asymmetrical, on the Avanti, true ...

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I think it's safe to say the Avanti is also the work of Mr Sokolov - at least, that's what I had always assumed. It's annoying Loewy didn't think to ask the owner's name, or record it in his book...

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