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Re: NEH 4092
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2015, 05:12:10 AM »
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Re: NEH 4092
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2015, 06:10:57 AM »
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Definitely Pininfarina, trying to track down which one.

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Everything past the nose screams 6C 2500 Alfa, did Pininfarina do a special nose as a one-off?

DOUBLE EDIT:
I was staring blindly at '49 6C 2500s, and similar noses to this one crop up under 1950 instead, but I'm not convinced this isn't a special of one form or another.
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Re: NEH 4092
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2015, 06:33:32 AM »
Pinin Farina Alfa 6C 2500 it is.
I haven't been able to ascertain definitively whether it's from 1950 or 1951; some sites say one and some the other..
We'll call it solved but if anyone can say with any certainly which year it is from I'd like to know!
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Re: NEH 4092
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2015, 07:23:30 AM »
Pinin Farina Alfa 6C 2500 it is.
I haven't been able to ascertain definitively whether it's from 1950 or 1951; some sites say one and some the other..
We'll call it solved but if anyone can say with any certainly which year it is from I'd like to know!

Oh is that all that was needed haha.
I daresay there will be some specific variant that this one is, I really can't seem to pin it down exactly and most pages that list chassis numbers that I've found all tend to show the more 'regular' nose which started in 1949, but even cars made in 1950 maintain that style, so '51 might indeed be more accurate?
The most consistent source for images seems to annoyingly be a model of this car with the name 1950 6C 2500 S Coupe by Pininfarina.

I've finally also managed to source a main set of images with this bodystyle car where it goes by the name "6c 2500 Berlinetta Pinin Farina", which I'm inclined to give the edge over any other so far... Still not finding any chassis numbers though.

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Re: Solved - NEH 4092: Pinin Farina Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 - 1950/51
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2015, 07:29:49 AM »
OK So the bodystyle seems to come from the 915.3xx chassis range of cars, but either Sport Coupe or Berlinetta is the closest I've been able to find. It could well be 915.365 as that's the only Coupe I can find (2 others with similar noses were made as cabriolets scratch that, they have headlight-to-headlight horizontal grilles, not self contained like this one), but I haven't found historical images, only contemporary so not sure what that means for name. The 'normal' body style continued on before and after these cars, though if my registry source is in dated order (no years alongside the chassis #s...) these do appear to be earlier on in the run of this overall bodystyle.

EDIT: I don't think it can be 915.365 as that car had different bumpers, grille, side skirt, lacks the indicators and wing mirrors and most tellingly is a split window example unless a thorough restoration was performed, which I doubt given the state of the interior in the contemprary pictures. Unless(2) they felt that the interior was worth protecting and only the exterior was restored, leaving me at a loss of other options.

I think this is a different car, perhaps slightly newer but the same bodystyle, but it seems odd that it's not (that I can find) present on seemingly complete(ish) registry websites.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4092: Pinin Farina Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 - 1950/51
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2015, 07:57:35 AM »
I don't think you could ever class these cars as 'production' cars so every one is probably slightly different in one way or another.
This is quite probably unique, with a grille which is a bit different from most of those I've seen.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4092: Pinin Farina Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 - 1950/51
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2015, 12:11:52 PM »
According to the Anselmi "Alfa Romeo 6C 2500" book this one is chassis 917125, so a long chassis (w/b 3.00 m). It's still in existence.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4092: Pinin Farina Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 - 1950/51
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2015, 09:54:34 PM »
According to the Anselmi "Alfa Romeo 6C 2500" book this one is chassis 917125, so a long chassis (w/b 3.00 m). It's still in existence.

Thanks! My source didn't have that chassis#, which explains why I couldn't find it and the differences to 915365.
That would have made it a very early car, prior to the more standardized design even? Does the book happen to mention anything about a different name being applied to this body-style or is it simply as the title of this topic states across the board?

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Re: Solved - NEH 4092: Pinin Farina Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 - 1950/51
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2015, 04:34:44 PM »
917125 is described as 1950 on the Anselmi, but according to "Pininfarina Catalogue Raisonne" it should be from 1952. Chassis 915365 is without doubts from 1950 (it was showed in Geneva). No specific names available... it's just "Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 berlina 5-6 posti".
The plates of both cars "MI 164xxx" and "MI 176xxx" are from 1951.
The P.F. archive numbers of the photo sets of the two cars are #523 for 915365 and #569 for 917125.
By the way the 917 chassis numbers were for the late Pinin Farina 4-door sedan from the 50s.

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