Author Topic: Solved - NEH 4284: DDR Eigenbau based on EMW 340 (or pre-war BMW 326?) ca 1952/3  (Read 935 times)

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What's this, from when and where - for 1 point?:

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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 05:33:25 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 07:02:55 PM »
I know this: Schuco Toys decided to build a full-size car. Yes? ???

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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2015, 04:13:53 AM »
I know this: Schuco Toys decided to build a full-size car. Yes? ???

I had one of those as a boy, with a transverse wheel in the middle of the chassis which stopped it falling off when it reached the end of the table!
In fact, I still have it!
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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2015, 08:02:53 PM »
They were great. In 1955/6 had two Schuco cars, both with steering operated via a long flexible shaft with a hand-held little steering wheel. One was a Mercedes 190SL open sports, but I can't quite remember the other. It was a Mercedes saloon, I think. Fabulous quality toys, just as expensive to run (in scale) as a real Mercedes - the D-Cell batteries only lasted about 10 minutes. :D

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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2015, 04:08:51 AM »
Ah, well mine's clockwork.  And I still have the key!
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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2015, 04:39:12 AM »
Professionals?
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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2015, 05:31:57 AM »
Looks like a postwar East German Eigenbau. Based on a BMW 326, intended to look a bit like a Veritas?

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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2015, 05:56:48 AM »
Looks like a postwar East German Eigenbau. Based on a BMW 326, intended to look a bit like a Veritas?

Indeed it is a post-war East German Eigenbau, but I have a different base for it.
See if you can find what I have as the base and from when it is supposed to date...
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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2015, 06:17:38 AM »
EMW 340, I think.

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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2015, 06:59:07 AM »
EMW 340, I think.

That's what I have, yes.
And the date (if I have it right..)?
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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2015, 10:45:19 AM »
I'm pretty sure this car was shown here at AP before.
I couldn't find it but you it is also in another 'guess that car' website, where it's dated 1953-1954.

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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2015, 11:07:37 AM »
Meanwhile I found it there too. And the poster there is not sure about the date, nor that it is really EMW-based. We had a similar discussion before about another "EMW-based" Eigenbau: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=26655.
The EMW was a car that was hardly available for the average GDR citizen. It was mainly used as a taxi, a government vehicle or for export. The taxis were in use well into the sixties when they were replaced by Volgas. So the probability is very small that an EMW would be converted by an individual within its first year of existence. Remember that before 1952 these cars were called BMW resp. Awtowelo BMW. In my opinion it is a converted prewar BMW that served as a base car.

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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2015, 11:19:12 AM »
I found this pic long before that post in that French site (and I was 99% sure it was from a post here, at Autopuzzles): there was not a definitive ID, but I took the EMW bit from there. There was no date.  :huh:

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Re: NEH 4284
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2015, 11:24:22 AM »
I was going by what it said on the site you've found so that earns you the point.
However, Wendax is probably right in that it's based on a pre-war BMW, as it's unlikely a GDR citizen would have converted a car so new into a special in the early 1950s, so whilst I was looking for EMW 340 as PJ has posted it's most probably not right.
If I give Wendax and PJ a point each that's probably fairest, but a definitive identification is still not definitely positive!
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