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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2012, 08:52:19 AM »
Was it meant to employ all-wheel-drive?
No, it was many years before Piëch took the lead..

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2012, 09:18:33 AM »
Is there something special about what the body shell is made from?
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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2012, 09:44:22 AM »
Is this a prototype for the first-generation Audi 100 Coupe S, as the front wings/fenders seem to be pure Audi 100?
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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2012, 10:30:48 AM »
Is this a prototype for the first-generation Audi 100 Coupe S, as the front wings/fenders seem to be pure Audi 100?
No.
Is there something special about what the body shell is made from?
No.

I told you this car isn't a predecessor of any production model Audi has built.
It's more a project of what might have be.
I'll post more pics later.

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2012, 10:39:01 AM »
Designed by an outsider?
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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2012, 12:02:23 PM »
Designed by an outsider?
No, quite the opposite.  ;)

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2012, 12:52:05 PM »
Renault 15 goes Ingolstadt  :lmao:

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2012, 12:53:51 PM »
Renault 15 goes Ingolstadt  :lmao:
If you could see all the other sketches... ;D

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2012, 05:18:59 PM »
So it is an Audi project of the late sixties?
Sorry, I didn't notice your reply. It's from the very early 70s.

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2013, 03:24:22 PM »
Was this an Audi project for a small entry model (pre- Audi 50) to replace the full rear-engined NSU range (Prinz, 1000C, TT, etc.)?
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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2013, 02:57:41 PM »
Was this an Audi project for a small entry model (pre- Audi 50) to replace the full rear-engined NSU range (Prinz, 1000C, TT, etc.)?
As mentioned before it wasn't related to any of the later Audi production cars. It was more a design exercise of a possible future car that wasn't ever built..

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2013, 12:28:32 PM »
One of the designers might have been Mr. Dienst, Angerhöfer or Schulze (sorry for the listing) - just answer if it was one of them, by chance...

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2013, 01:21:01 PM »
I don't know why I didn't reply..  :-\


 I'll check my book when I'm at home. After five months I'm sure you can wait a few days longer..  ;D

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2013, 08:34:32 AM »
Two weeks later... ;)

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2013, 05:06:55 AM »
I can't find a bit of a possible storyline that could be hiding behind this picture. Could it be a project for the first non DKW-based Audi, dropped in favour of the 100?

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2013, 12:46:52 PM »
One of the designers might have been Mr. Dienst, Angerhöfer or Schulze (sorry for the listing) - just answer if it was one of them, by chance...
Surprise! Surprise! It's none of them mentioned in that source. Maybe the name "Helmut Warkuß" rings any bells?

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2013, 03:55:55 AM »
Helmut or Hartmut? Hartmut Warkuß started in 1969 at Audi NSU.
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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2013, 11:15:21 AM »
Helmut or Hartmut? Hartmut Warkuß started in 1969 at Audi NSU.

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Of course it must be "Hartmut"!

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2013, 05:23:37 PM »

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2013, 03:51:31 AM »
Was the vehicle ever exhibited publicly?
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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2013, 06:30:15 AM »
I can't find a bit of a possible storyline that could be hiding behind this picture. Could it be a project for the first non DKW-based Audi, dropped in favour of the 100?
No. It was a smaller car than the '100'.  As mentioned before it's not related to any other Audi production car. It has neither predecessor nor successor. It was more about which way Audi generally wanted to go in the early 70s. This was one of the abandoned projects.
Was the vehicle ever exhibited publicly?
Not that I know.  :-\
Not a big clue I know, but I stumbled on it in a book I purchased after one of Quiller's puzzles was solved. His puzzle car is also featured there.  ;)

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2013, 06:50:36 AM »
I don't have access to the book, but perhaps somebody else does. Is the book Audi Design: Automobildesign von 1965 bis zur Gegenwart?
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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2013, 07:09:24 AM »
I don't have access to the book, but perhaps somebody else does. Is the book Audi Design: Automobildesign von 1965 bis zur Gegenwart?
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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2013, 10:21:13 AM »
A project of a rear wheel drive car?

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Re: Allemano's № 856
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2013, 10:20:59 PM »
As it is pictured in the design studio, is the vehicle pictured actually made mostly of clay?