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Offline Carnut

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Solved - NEH 4077: M.A.P. mid-engine supercharged diesel Le Mans car - 1950
« on: May 18, 2015, 08:19:33 AM »
What's this, powered by what - for 1 point?:

Remember - solving puzzles using 'Google Search by Image' is BANNED on AutoPuzzles!
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Re: NEH 4077
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2015, 05:58:04 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 4077
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2015, 04:36:18 PM »
MAP diesel 5 litres 4 cylinder engine.

Not easy to find confirmation, I knew it was a MAP (Manufacture d’Armes de Paris), but MAP grand prix gave me all kinds of circuits but not the car...... I have an article about it in my Science et Vie magazines. I will see if I can scan it. Placed: DNF 39 laps

Not the frst Diesel engined car to run at Le Mans, but it was the first cental engined car.

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Re: NEH 4077
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2015, 05:03:23 PM »
Actually, I just saw it is a M.A.P. 1950 Le Mans, according to Science et Vie (Map was used in 1949 in combination with Delahaye: Delahaye Map)
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Re: NEH 4077
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2015, 04:29:42 AM »
Indeed.
A bit of an ugly brute but technically quite ahead of its time.  I wonder why it needed that bulbous front though when its engine was behind the driver?
The car has actually been pictured here before as part of a group puzzle.
1 point for you.

More pictures:

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Re: Solved - NEH 4077: M.A.P. mid-engine supercharged diesel Le Mans car - 1950
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2015, 05:36:25 AM »
It was based on a Delage V12 chassis with Diesel mid-engine, driven by Pierre Veyron.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4077: M.A.P. mid-engine supercharged diesel Le Mans car - 1950
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2015, 05:43:11 AM »
The engine was very original : a supercharged, 2-stroke, 8-piston horizontal four cylinder.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4077: M.A.P. mid-engine supercharged diesel Le Mans car - 1950
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2015, 06:04:38 AM »
Quote from: oko94 on June 02, 2015, 05:43:11 AM
The engine was very original : a supercharged, 2-stroke, 8-piston horizontal four cylinder.

With a 5-litre displacement!
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Re: Solved - NEH 4077: M.A.P. mid-engine supercharged diesel Le Mans car - 1950
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2015, 07:38:59 AM »
Quote from: oko94 on June 02, 2015, 05:43:11 AM
The engine was very original : a supercharged, 2-stroke, 8-piston horizontal four cylinder.

8-piston four-cylinder?  ???
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Re: Solved - NEH 4077: M.A.P. mid-engine supercharged diesel Le Mans car - 1950
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2015, 07:49:36 AM »
Quote from: Oswald on June 02, 2015, 07:38:59 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 02, 2015, 05:43:11 AM
The engine was very original : a supercharged, 2-stroke, 8-piston horizontal four cylinder.

8-piston four-cylinder?  ???

Can't imagine it!
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Re: Solved - NEH 4077: M.A.P. mid-engine supercharged diesel Le Mans car - 1950
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2015, 07:53:42 AM »
Quote from: Carnut on June 02, 2015, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: Oswald on June 02, 2015, 07:38:59 AM
Quote from: oko94 on June 02, 2015, 05:43:11 AM
The engine was very original : a supercharged, 2-stroke, 8-piston horizontal four cylinder.

8-piston four-cylinder?  ???

Can't imagine it!

Think Commer TS3. Two  opposing  pistons using one cylinder. Very, very noisy. I expect the drivers of the faster cars would have heard the racket well above the sound of their own engines, when they passed the thing on the Mulsanne.
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Re: Solved - NEH 4077: M.A.P. mid-engine supercharged diesel Le Mans car - 1950
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2015, 07:59:22 AM »
Looks theoretically like this:
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Re: Solved - NEH 4077: M.A.P. mid-engine supercharged diesel Le Mans car - 1950
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2015, 08:00:47 AM »
And in reality:
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Re: Solved - NEH 4077: M.A.P. mid-engine supercharged diesel Le Mans car - 1950
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2015, 07:02:48 AM »
Good grief, that is something!
Thanks for the explanations guys.
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