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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2015, 12:51:17 PM »
Built between 1955 and 1960?
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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2015, 02:49:02 PM »
Salmson?
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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2015, 05:48:36 PM »
Not Ford engine !
Not between 1955 and 1960 !
And not a Salmson !
There were 2 prototypes built of this car !
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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #53 on: February 20, 2015, 01:06:46 AM »
Bugatti?
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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2015, 02:12:48 AM »
Built between 1952 and 1954?
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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2015, 03:17:19 AM »
Bernardet?
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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2015, 04:05:37 AM »
Obscure or well-known coachbuilder ?
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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2015, 05:17:04 AM »
Not Bugatti !
A coach builder between 1952 and 1954 known like Bernardet !
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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2015, 05:23:42 AM »
Antem?
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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2015, 05:27:55 AM »
Pichon Parat?
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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #60 on: February 20, 2015, 05:47:16 AM »
Chappe ?
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Re: SAC#909
« Reply #61 on: February 20, 2015, 06:38:53 AM »
Yes ! the coach builder is Antem !
Locked for PJ !
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2015, 07:06:51 AM »
Ok, to sum up, Antem designed the body for these 2 prototypes, built by a small post-war constructor with a French engine.
Engine is not from:
Amilcar
Arista
Barbier
Bernardet
Bugatti
Chenard Walker
Citroen
DB
Facel Vega
Ford France
Gregoire
Panhard
Peugeot
Renault
Rosengart
Rosier
Salmson
Simca

Is this constructor a totally obscure one?
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2015, 07:16:36 AM »
You forget one ! ;)
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2015, 07:30:48 AM »
Quote from: SACO on February 20, 2015, 07:16:36 AM
You forget one ! ;)
More than one...
Do you mean it's a quite known name, like Talbot?
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2015, 08:35:48 AM »
No a little maker !
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2015, 08:37:31 AM »
But a known one?
I mean is something like the Licorne project and there is something in books or magazines or it's an ultra obscure maker that built a couple of cars and then disappeared without leaving any trace?
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2015, 08:43:27 AM »
No ! He built numerous cars and 2 with Antem !
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2015, 09:30:09 AM »
Alright, I'll look for a quite known maker that is not in this list:

Amilcar,
Arista,
Barbier,
Bernardet,
Bugatti,
Chenard Walker,
Citroen,
DB,
Facel Vega,
Ford France,
Gregoire,
Licorne,
Panhard,
Peugeot,
Renault,
Rosengart,
Rosier,
Salmson,
Simca,
Talbot

...and built those 2 cars.
Last question before I start looking into some books: was this maker active post 1949 and this is a sort of 'revival' project or the maker was active in the 1952-1954 period?
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2015, 09:38:30 AM »
The maker was active in the 1952-1954 period ; but the end was close !
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2015, 12:10:27 PM »
 :tasty:
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2015, 12:24:36 PM »
I think I have the answer too, I just hope to be online when it's unlocked !
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2015, 02:30:57 PM »
Quote from: oko94 on February 20, 2015, 12:24:36 PM
I think I have the answer too, I just hope to be online when it's unlocked !
Thank you for the confidence  ;D

According to Bellu, there were 18 makers at the 1954's Salon.
11 are in the list of already guessed ones.
2 are powered by engines from that list (Autobleu & Gordini).
1, that was going to be my choice... is too big (Hotchkiss)

Among the 4 ones that are left, I guess it could be the CEME-powered Mochet...since there was an Antem bodied Cabriolet in 1953 and a barquette run the '55 Bol d'Or.
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Re: SAC#909 : Locked
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2015, 06:01:29 PM »
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Mochet CM 750, CEMEC engine and body by Antem at 55 Bol d'Or.
1 point for P.J  :)
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Re: SAC#909 :Mochet CM 750 body by Antem at 55 Bol d'Or
« Reply #74 on: February 21, 2015, 01:38:18 AM »
It was the personal car of Jean and Jacques Antem.
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