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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2015 => Topic started by: SACO on January 04, 2015, 05:18:23 PM

Title: SAC#901 : Iota Jap Special 1958
Post by: SACO on January 04, 2015, 05:18:23 PM
What is this , for 1 point !  :)
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Post by: SACO on January 15, 2015, 05:07:45 PM
Experts !
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Post by: frederick59 on January 15, 2015, 05:16:30 PM
French car?
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Post by: SACO on January 16, 2015, 01:51:41 PM
Not a French car !
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Post by: frederick59 on January 16, 2015, 02:08:05 PM
German racer?
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Post by: SACO on January 17, 2015, 05:37:54 AM
Not a German racer !
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Post by: SACO on January 22, 2015, 02:39:18 AM
Pros !
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Post by: Wendax on January 22, 2015, 03:09:55 AM
Cooper 500-based?
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Post by: nicanary on January 22, 2015, 06:14:13 AM
Revis?
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Post by: SACO on January 22, 2015, 07:14:01 AM
Not Cooper and not Revis !
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Post by: Wendax on January 22, 2015, 07:27:41 AM
British at least?
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Post by: oko94 on January 22, 2015, 07:28:32 AM
European car ?
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Post by: SACO on January 22, 2015, 09:28:05 AM
Yes ! a British car !
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Post by: oko94 on January 22, 2015, 11:10:55 AM
500cc Formula 3 category ?
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Post by: SACO on January 27, 2015, 02:45:36 AM
Yes !
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Post by: oko94 on January 27, 2015, 03:04:31 AM
Homemade or built by a company ?
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Post by: matramurena on January 27, 2015, 03:14:25 AM
JAP powered?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2015, 05:02:32 AM
By Chris Summers?
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Post by: SACO on January 27, 2015, 12:26:52 PM
JAP powered , by a company , but not by Chris Summers !
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Post by: oko94 on January 27, 2015, 12:38:50 PM
Kieft ?
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Post by: SACO on January 27, 2015, 02:29:03 PM
Not Kieft !
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Post by: nicanary on January 28, 2015, 10:22:34 AM
Was this supposed to be a road car version of a F3 raing car?
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Post by: SACO on January 28, 2015, 12:12:40 PM
I don't know !
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2015, 12:28:25 PM
I hope it's in a certain book about Specials I bought today...
Not Cooper and not Revis !
But is it based on a Cooper?
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Post by: SACO on January 28, 2015, 04:59:56 PM
Not based on a Cooper !
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Post by: oko94 on January 29, 2015, 03:36:47 AM
Was it actually raced or was it just a prototype ?
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Post by: SACO on January 29, 2015, 05:14:05 AM
I think it's a prototype !
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Post by: nicanary on January 30, 2015, 10:49:43 AM
Bit of a long shot - is this car Jeremy Webster's Waco? He had a self-built racer which he converted for road use.
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Post by: SACO on January 31, 2015, 03:04:27 AM
Not Jeremy Webster Waco !
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Post by: Willie McCrum on February 10, 2015, 07:26:49 AM
Staride ?
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Post by: SACO on February 10, 2015, 08:11:42 AM
Not Staride !
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Post by: Willie McCrum on February 10, 2015, 08:19:10 AM
Erskine Staride ?
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Post by: SACO on February 10, 2015, 10:47:05 AM
Not Erskine Staride !
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Post by: nicanary on February 11, 2015, 06:31:47 AM
Most F3 cars were one-offs, and very few were factory-made. We know it's not a Cooper or Kieft, and there are not many marques left that comply with your clues.
Arnott?
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Post by: SACO on February 11, 2015, 12:14:48 PM
Not Arnott !
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Post by: nicanary on February 13, 2015, 06:56:35 AM
Built by Ray Martin?
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Post by: SACO on February 13, 2015, 05:37:08 PM
Not built by Ray Martin !
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Post by: nicanary on February 15, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
Marwyn?
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Post by: SACO on February 15, 2015, 12:27:19 PM
Not Marwyn !
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Post by: nicanary on February 15, 2015, 05:21:09 PM
JBS ?
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Post by: SACO on February 15, 2015, 05:59:19 PM
Not JBS !
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Post by: nicanary on February 16, 2015, 06:42:17 AM
Mackson?
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Post by: SACO on February 16, 2015, 07:12:14 AM
Not Mackson !
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Post by: nicanary on February 16, 2015, 07:00:07 PM
You said it was built by a company. Did they build several cars, or just one or two?
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Post by: SACO on February 17, 2015, 01:48:05 AM
Several cars !
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Post by: nicanary on February 17, 2015, 05:46:14 AM
There are virtually no production F3 cars we haven't mentioned! It's not an Iota, that's for sure.

Creamer?
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Post by: SACO on February 17, 2015, 12:20:41 PM
 :nod:
A Iota Jap Special 1958 !
1 point for nicanary !
Title: Re: SAC#901 : Iota Jap Special 1958
Post by: nicanary on February 17, 2015, 07:04:19 PM
Thank you for the point, but I'm rather embarrassed, because in my last post I said it was not an Iota! The Iota, in its early form and even in the later series of cars, was a very basic car indeed. It could not hope to compete with the Coopers and Kiefts since it was a very unsophisticated design.

All I know is that just before they ceased building cars, they made 2 sports cars, which I should imagine were based on an F3 chassis, and maybe this is one of those. I cannot find any images of these cars. Iota often sold just the chassis, and buyers supplied their own bodywork, so it is possible that someone has adapted  the body of another F3 car to create this puzzle car. It's a mystery to me.

I've checked the 2 sports cars, and they are nothing like this. Indeed they have both been previous puzzles on AP. This car is a mystery.
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Post by: HiRich on September 27, 2015, 01:02:50 PM
There's a mystery behind this car, if anyone can add more information.

It is an Iota, apparently, although if that's a JAP in the back, it's no JAP i've seen. But closer inspection suggests it isn't a Norton either (the rocker covers are too small). What I do know is that this car was built up by Don Parker - more commonly associated with Kiefts and (by this stage) Coopers. It could well be outside his Clapham workshop, although cobbled streets and stable doors were much more common back then. I believe it was a road car rather than a racer (note the kick start under the engine cover, but where are all the lights?), but have nothing else. The car is clearly some way from completion, but I have nothing on file to indicate how it finished. In fact, the one person who really should know about this car got really interested when I contacted him - he has almost nothing on the car either, and it disappeared without a trace.

If anyone knows any more about this car or has more images, I'd be grateful if you would post it here, or more discreetly perhaps drop me a PM