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Royal Tourist Model G (1904)
« on: November 29, 2014, 02:58:30 AM »
Make, mode and year, please
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Re: BD22
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2014, 03:19:28 AM »
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Re: BD22
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2015, 03:42:33 AM »
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Re: BD22
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2015, 03:47:51 AM »
1910 Royal Model G by the Royal Motor Co. of Cleveland, Ohio, USA.
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Re: BD22
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2015, 03:54:04 AM »
Not the good year, locked for you.
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Re: BD22
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2015, 04:19:38 AM »
Very strange.  I have a usually reliable source that says it is a 1910, but I have located another source that shows the identical vehicle at the 2008 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance as a 1905.  Based on the second source, I'll try:  1905 Royal Model G.
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Re: BD22
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2015, 05:34:06 AM »
I have 1905, and same of you, my photo and my source come from peeble beach exibition.  Point is for you.
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Re: Royal Model G (1905)
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2015, 08:18:14 AM »
Has the puzzle picture been modified?
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Re: Royal Model G (1905)
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2015, 08:56:27 AM »
No, why?
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Re: Royal Model G (1905)
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2015, 12:49:09 PM »
Thank you Bertrand!  Did you remember to add my point?  My total remains unchanged from previously.
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Re: Royal Model G (1905)
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2015, 02:05:37 PM »
The solution is not completely correct: While the company was the Royal Motor Car Company as stated, the cars were called Royal Tourist, not just Royal. Interestingly, the Standard Catalog has the Series G model just for the years 1907 and 1908. In 1905 there was just a Model F, in 1910 just a Model M.
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Re: Royal Model G (1905)
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2015, 02:57:11 PM »
Sorry 4popoid,
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Re: Royal Model G (1905)
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2015, 02:58:02 PM »
Your point is added
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Re: Royal Model G (1905)
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2015, 12:04:30 AM »
Quote from: Wendax on January 07, 2015, 02:05:37 PM
The solution is not completely correct: While the company was the Royal Motor Car Company as stated, the cars were called Royal Tourist, not just Royal. Interestingly, the Standard Catalog has the Series G model just for the years 1907 and 1908. In 1905 there was just a Model F, in 1910 just a Model M.
Your point regarding Royal Tourist is well taken Gerd.  I erred in thinking Royal Tourist was just another description for a Royal tourer, rather than a proper name.  However, with regard to the Standard Catalog, I think it is in error regarding the production years for the Model G.  I have a source (link will be provided via PM upon request) that says both the Model F and Model G were initiated in 1904.  Both models had a common 100" wheelbase, but the Model G was powered by an 18/20 HP two cylinder engine, whereas the more expensive Model F was powered by a 32/38 HP four cylinder engine.  Attached is a 1904 advertisement for the Model G.
   
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Re: Royal Tourist Model G (1907)
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2015, 02:25:36 AM »
Thanks for making that clear.  :)
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Re: Royal Model G (1905)
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2015, 08:12:42 AM »
Quote from: BERTRAND on January 07, 2015, 08:56:27 AM
No, why?
If a puzzle pic has no visible badge or name on the grill, I always wonder if it's been obscured in the picture for the sake of the puzzle. If it has, I like to see what the unmodified pic looks like, especially if it's a make I haven't seen a picture of before.

Quote from: Wendax on January 07, 2015, 02:05:37 PM
The solution is not completely correct: While the company was the Royal Motor Car Company as stated, the cars were called Royal Tourist, not just Royal.
I was wondering why I couldn't find much of anything on a make simply called "Royal."
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Re: Royal Model G (1905)
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2015, 10:04:54 AM »
Quote from: ftg3plus4 on January 08, 2015, 08:12:42 AM
Quote from: BERTRAND on January 07, 2015, 08:56:27 AM
No, why?
If a puzzle pic has no visible badge or name on the grill, I always wonder if it's been obscured in the picture for the sake of the puzzle. If it has, I like to see what the unmodified pic looks like, especially if it's a make I haven't seen a picture of before.
No, I did any modification with this photo
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Re: BD22
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2015, 01:02:05 PM »
Quote from: 4popoid on January 07, 2015, 03:47:51 AM
1910 Royal Model G by the Royal Motor Co. of Cleveland, Ohio, USA.
I think I came across the place where you got this information. It is a website with many interesting car pictures, but lots of typos and other errors.
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Re: Royal Tourist Model G (1904)
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2015, 01:43:49 PM »
I'm agree with you, wonderful website for car pictures but incomplete for type of car and year.
Each time (when I picked up the name of car in this website) I check with other website, or my différents books.
For this car, the problem is lot of different web site give a same wrong year for this picture. 
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