Topic: Bits 'n Pieces the Second SOLVED after 8 years!

[Wendax]

#10: Rosengart LR505?

[DHoffmann]

#10: 1934 Talbot T105

Not a Talbot

#10: Rosengart LR505?

Once again, exceptionally similar, but not a Rosengart...

[Wendax]

#10: La Licorne 8 CV?

[DHoffmann]

#10: La Licorne 8 CV?

It IS a La Licorne, but not 8 CV. Held for you for the correct model!

[Paul Jaray]

#31- May I ask which is your answer? The car is quite known, I have a picture of it few steps from Luigi Pagani's workshop, were the Lancia engine was tuned. It was built for Luciano Agosti and it ended in Enrico Adanti's hands.
I have some articles about, but Zagato is never mentioned.

[DHoffmann]

#31- May I ask which is your answer? The car is quite known, I have a picture of it few steps from Luigi Pagani's workshop, were the Lancia engine was tuned. It was built for Luciano Agosti and it ended in Enrico Adanti's hands.
I have some articles about, but Zagato is never mentioned.

So that would mean the Viotti is the correct answer? This would mean that the point is yours rather than Joao's with his Zagato guess...

I'm very happy to admit that my source at the time would have been incorrect, especially considering the lack of results I'm getting now, it was named as a Lancia Aprilia Sport by Motto.

[Paul Jaray]

We had that car here:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11907.0

I'll look for a pic of a Motto bodied Lancia of 1938 that, according to my index, should be in the Catalogue Raissonee.
Joao's obviously found the car, you can give him his point. 

[Wendax]

#10: La Licorne 8 CV?

It IS a La Licorne, but not 8 CV. Held for you for the correct model!

Going by the louvers, it seems to be a 1935 model. Since it is not an 8 CV, it could be an 11 CV.

[DHoffmann]

We had that car here:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11907.0

I'll look for a pic of a Motto bodied Lancia of 1938 that, according to my index, should be in the Catalogue Raissonee.
Joao's obviously found the car, you can give him his point. 

Thanks for the link, in your thread America75 says: "While I agree with PJ that it is most probably a Viotti creation, I want to point out that in the book 'La Lancia' by Wim Oude Weernink, the car is identified as: ...Turin coachbuilder Motto with his interpretation for an aerodynamic Mille Miglia coupé in 1938, to be driven by Luigi 'Gigi' Villoresi."
which may very well be where my source got Motto from, but my image quite clearly shows it in the same race configuration as your bottom image at the '6 ore di Pescara' so I'll mark it as solved, and your upon your insistence by Joao.

[DHoffmann]

#10: La Licorne 8 CV?

It IS a La Licorne, but not 8 CV. Held for you for the correct model!

Going by the louvers, it seems to be a 1935 model. Since it is not an 8 CV, it could be an 11 CV.

The louvres actually point to a very specific configuration, which I do believe is based on the 11 CV, but La Licorne appear to have given their own names to so I do still require that name.

[Wendax]

I know which one you are talking about, I came across it yesterday while going through my books. I'll have to look up the correct name tonight.

[Wendax]

It should be the Licorne Type MIR Grand Confort.

[DHoffmann]

It should be the Licorne Type MIR Grand Confort.

That's... not what I have...

Have you got any photos to go with that name?

[Paul Jaray]

Finally I had the time to scan that page from the Lancia catalogue:

[Wendax]

I finally found the #10 car. It is a 1935 Licorne 11CV Type B4 Coupé by Duval. Licorne called its three-window coupe usually La Baule. Is that the name you are looking for?

[DHoffmann]

Finally I had the time to scan that page from the Lancia catalogue:

Thanks! There the name Motto appears once again, so my initial labelling was correct. Was it a Viotti design BUILT by Motto or was Motto behind it the whole way? Or was the Lancia catalogue incorrect...

I finally found the #10 car. It is a 1935 Licorne 11CV Type B4 Coupé by Duval. Licorne called its three-window coupe usually La Baule. Is that the name you are looking for?

There we go! I have it as La Licorne 420 (internal name for 11CV it seems) Coupe by Duval. I hadn't seen the La Baule designation before, but you've already provided the requisite information so this is just a cherry on top! Well done!

[DHoffmann]

This leaves just 5 puzzle pieces before this one can finally be retired! I've attached them here for easier finding:

7.

9.

12.

26.

29.

Home stretch folks, any questions to help identify any of these vehicles?

[Paul Jaray]

Finally I had the time to scan that page from the Lancia catalogue:

Thanks! There the name Motto appears once again, so my initial labelling was correct. Was it a Viotti design BUILT by Motto or was Motto behind it the whole way? Or was the Lancia catalogue incorrect...

My idea is the car was 'presumed' bodied by Motto when that pic was published, but then it was definetly credited to Viotti. The catalogue says 'probably built by Motto'.

[Oguerrerob]

This leaves just 5 puzzle pieces before this one can finally be retired! I've attached them here for easier finding:

7.

9.

12.

26.

29.

Home stretch folks, any questions to help identify any of these vehicles?

What about #30

[oko94]

#7 : German concept car built between 2000 and 2005 ?
#9 : rear-engined car with sliding roof built in Europe after 2000 ?
#12 : Austrian concept car built between 1995 and 2000 ?
#26 : concept car built in Europe between 1990 and 1995 ?
#29 : Japanese concept car built between 1986 and 1992 ?

[oko94]

#30. Concept car built in Europe between 1990 and 1995 ?

[Paul Jaray]

Is any of the missing ones from the States?

[DHoffmann]

Finally I had the time to scan that page from the Lancia catalogue:

Thanks! There the name Motto appears once again, so my initial labelling was correct. Was it a Viotti design BUILT by Motto or was Motto behind it the whole way? Or was the Lancia catalogue incorrect...

My idea is the car was 'presumed' bodied by Motto when that pic was published, but then it was definetly credited to Viotti. The catalogue says 'probably built by Motto'.

I'm happy to go with that as the answer, given that the puzzle images came from the web ~4 years ago I wouldn't have had the up to date answer.

What about #30

Hah, whoops! And that one too - thanks for adding that on there!

#7 : German concept car built between 2000 and 2005 ? Not German, not from that period.
#9 : rear-engined car with sliding roof built in Europe after 2000 ? Not rear engined nor sliding roof, but post 2000 European, yes.
#12 : Austrian concept car built between 1995 and 2000 ? Not Austrian, period is correct.
#26 : concept car built in Europe between 1990 and 1995 ? Yes European, wrong period.
#29 : Japanese concept car built between 1986 and 1992 ? Not Japanese nor from that period.

#30. Concept car built in Europe between 1990 and 1995 ? Not a concept car, yes European but I cannot find a date actually, so I'm not sure...

Is any of the missing ones from the States?

No, none of them are.

[oko94]

#7. Made in Europe before 2000 ?
#9. Mid-engined, made in a Mediterranean country after 2005 ?
#12. Made in Switzerland before 1995 ?
#26. Made in Germany before 1995 ?
#29. Made in Europe after 1992 ?
#30. Made in a Mediterranean country ?

[DHoffmann]

#7. Made in Europe before 2000 ? Yes to both.
#9. Mid-engined, made in a Mediterranean country after 2005 ? Yes, no, yes.
#12. Made in Switzerland before 1995 ? Not Swiss, not before 1995 as the period selected was correct last guess.
#26. Made in Germany before 1995 ? Yes to both.
#29. Made in Europe after 1992 ? Yes to both.
#30. Made in a Mediterranean country ? No it was not.