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Solved TGF-442: Autocar-Kromhout-DAF Refuse truck, 1936
« on: December 22, 2014, 09:38:29 AM »
Can you identify this truck...I need the base and the firm who coachbuilt it.
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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2014, 11:10:46 AM »
Italian?

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2014, 12:54:07 PM »
No.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2014, 07:28:30 AM »
German?

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2014, 10:34:56 AM »
No, not German.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2014, 08:14:34 AM »
American Diamond T or Reo?

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2014, 11:58:08 AM »
Neither Diamond T, nor REO.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2014, 09:35:33 AM »
International Harvester?

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2014, 10:46:05 AM »
Not an International Harvester.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2014, 04:54:55 PM »
From Europe?

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2014, 05:34:04 PM »
Yes, European.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2015, 05:55:52 PM »
Wild guess: French?

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2015, 08:59:18 AM »
Not French.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2015, 10:58:51 AM »
Up.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2015, 10:59:38 AM »
British?

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2015, 11:00:25 AM »
Not British.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2015, 11:24:07 AM »
Dutch ?

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2015, 02:45:30 PM »
Oh yes, it's Dutch.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2015, 02:49:04 PM »
DAF 36132 refuse truck by Van Twist

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2015, 02:53:40 PM »
I have it as a Kromhout-Autocar from 1936 bodied by DAF

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2015, 03:21:47 PM »
I have it as a 1936 Kromhout bodied by DAF, but Wendax's answer looks to be coming from an affordable source. Perhaps I have to dig a little more!  Locked for you two, but anyone who could add a final word, will be welcome.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2015, 05:18:07 PM »
I tend to agree with pguillem..the Autocar base is rather obvious and Kromhout had probably a licence for Holland . It also looks more 1936 than 1951.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2015, 06:03:57 PM »
Hi Guys:

I got in late on this puzzle, but I think I can confirm at least some points.

I do not have very exact references about Kromhout, but basically, they were  a Dutch vehicle engineering firm that over time acted as an importer of chassis and motors that they "combined" into vehicles they called Kromhout.  It seems in many cases these vehicles had bodies done by outside companies such as DAF in this case.  As this photo appears in my DAF archive files, I am quite sure they did the bodywork.

Without going into too much detail, below is a period advertisement for Autocar trucks imported by Kromhout.

Bill

Cheers
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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2015, 06:43:37 PM »
Some other Kromhout-Autocars.  The Van Twist vuilniswagen has a different face.  The problem is that this site has plenty of images but also présents identification errors, even in different pages showing the same bus or truck.  Internal consistency is lacking.

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Re: TGF-442
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2015, 07:38:39 AM »
Well, I was sure it was a Autocar based truck, and I am sure DAF is the marque of this vehicle. DAF produced trailers and modified trucks for special pourposes before WWII. So, if this truck would be bodied by Van Twist, we should believe that the base is a '51 Daf...but I don't think so.
So I suppose that Pguillem's answer is the correct one, and I give him the point. Sorry Gerd...if you should find any proof about Van Twist connection, I'll be glad to award you another point.