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Ubb129 Gatso 4000 Coupe at Zandvoort June 1950

Started by mekubb, December 16, 2013, 05:48:21 PM

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mekubb

For 1 point I would like to know the venue, the year and make/model of the car on the right

Frisian Rhodesian

Zandvoort - 1949 FIAT 1100 Gilco Sports

mekubb

Zandvoort is correct, year is close but the car isn't a Fiat Gilco

660851

date is probably 10th june 1951 the driver in the centre is van dieten

mekubb

Well, the one in the middle is indeed van Dieten. But I need to know what car we see on the right. The year is still close, but not 1951....

Frisian Rhodesian

1948 Cisitalia 202MM

mekubb


mekubb


D-type

Zandvoort 11 June 1950 and Maurice Gatsonides in the Gatso 4000 coupé?
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

mekubb

Quote from: D-type on January 05, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
Zandvoort 11 June 1950 and Maurice Gatsonides in the Gatso 4000 coupé?

That's the one ! A point for you. Here is a side view, strange car...

Wendax

It seems to have lost its cyclops headlight over the years. As the other headlights seem to protrude less than in the 1948 picture, perhaps a nose job was done after an accident.

We had the car in its initial guise before: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=12949.0

mekubb

Quote from: Wendax on January 06, 2014, 02:38:17 AM
It seems to have lost its cyclops headlight over the years. As the other headlights seem to protrude less than in the 1948 picture, perhaps a nose job was done after an accident.

We had the car in its initial guise before: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=12949.0
I also saw that the head lights were a bit different from the original 1948 pic, could well be because of an accident. I could ask some of my friends who know all about Zandvoort history

SACO


nicanary

Quote from: SACO on January 07, 2014, 01:40:30 AM
The car on the left is also a Gatso !

Thank you Saco. I thought I was going mad - which is left and which is right?
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

D-type

In this case, I think SACO meant "Right as you look at it" rather than "Grid [stage] right".

Is that an RM Riley on the third row?  Hardly likely to provide any competition to an XK120.
is it!
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

nicanary

Quote from: D-type on January 07, 2014, 05:59:08 AM
In this case, I think SACO meant "Right as you look at it" rather than "Grid [stage] right".

Is that an RM Riley on the third row?  Hardly likely to provide any competition to an XK120.
is it!

I thought it looked like a "waterfall" grille of a late-30s American sedan. I think the Dutch were like the British in this era with regards to production car races - if it was in production, then it raced against anything else "in production". Sports cars and saloons all lumped together.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

SACO


mekubb

There are indeed 2 Gatso's. The white one on the left is a Gatso 4000 Roadster driven by Klaas Barendregt, in the middle the XK120 Roadster from Johannes van Dieten and on the right the Gatso 4000 Coupé driven by Maus Gatsonides himself