Author Topic: Ubb120 Fiat Balilla 508S Coppa d'Oro by Graber or Worblaufen 1934/1940  (Read 1772 times)

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Make, model, year and coach builder required for a point
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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2013, 04:53:00 PM »
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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2013, 04:40:55 AM »
It looks like some kind of Fiat 508 Balilla Coppa d'Oro...
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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2013, 03:26:26 PM »
It looks like some kind of Fiat 508 Balilla Coppa d'Oro...
Yes it is, very good ! Locked for you to come up with the coach builder and year

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2013, 09:43:46 AM »
I've found nothing... maybe Viotti??
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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2013, 12:45:42 PM »
Not Viotti... one more guess !

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2013, 04:20:34 AM »
Motto?
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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2013, 11:36:25 AM »
Not Motto, unlocked !

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2013, 11:47:44 AM »
Italian?

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2013, 12:49:14 PM »
Italian?
I assume you mean the coach builder ?  ???

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2013, 01:02:15 PM »
Yes..

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2013, 04:07:08 PM »
Not Italian body work !

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2013, 12:50:53 PM »
German body builder?
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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2013, 04:22:09 PM »
Not from Germany either

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2013, 08:30:22 PM »
FRench?

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2013, 03:02:49 AM »
No not French

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2013, 07:00:34 AM »
no italian, no German, no french .... swiss?

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2013, 07:21:04 AM »
Swiss it is indeed...

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2013, 10:04:20 PM »
a fiat 508 by Ramsauer & cie.?

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2013, 06:38:27 AM »
Not by Ramsauer

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2014, 05:07:53 PM »
Hermann Graber?

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2014, 03:37:16 AM »
Hermann Graber?
Yes it is by Graber, locked for you to come up with the right year (there are 2 possibilities..  ;). And welcome to Autopuzzles AlexFrance !

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2014, 12:36:28 PM »
Hermann Graber?
Yes it is by Graber, locked for you to come up with the right year (there are 2 possibilities..  ;). And welcome to Autopuzzles AlexFrance !

Thanks a lot mekubb for the welcome message!

Regarding the year of manufacture, I have been searching for clues but haven't found anything really relevant so far. How long do I have until you unlock?

If I may ask for a nudge in the right direction, and since your answer implies that there are only two -easy?- possibilities, can the year of the car be deducted from something that can be seen from the outside? I was thinking about the number of exhaust tubes for example since there has been different engines fitted to that car along the years. Or should it be deducted from the look of the car. If yes to the latter question, then I think this body design is probably from the late thirties (as opposed to the early thirties).

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2014, 04:15:08 PM »
You are on the right track that the body has been altered, that explains the 2 possibilities for the right year. Still locked

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Re: Ubb120
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2014, 01:51:00 PM »
I am completely lost so please unlock!

I keep looking at the picture and can’t find a single clue as to when that car was made. So my opinion is that it was either bodied/altered in the 30’s or... much more recently (why not a complete recreation made in the 70’s? That dashboard doesn’t look quite right to me).

So my new question is: was the body made at the same period than the chassis?