Author Topic: Solved TGF-411: Latil H14 A1 B5, 1948, probably coachbuilt in Spain  (Read 713 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7788
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Can you identify this truck?
« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 05:18:41 AM by targhediferro »

Offline 58_spyder

  • Expert
  • *
  • Posts: 172
  • Country: be
  • Puzzle Points 62
  • Name That Car!
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2014, 06:37:08 AM »
Is it French?

It is similar to the Renault, Delahaye and Latil  Trucks from just before WWII

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7788
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2014, 09:07:58 AM »
Well, I have to say no, it's not actually french...but I lock it for you because you're on the right path. A bit more digging and you'll find it! ;)

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7788
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2014, 03:28:11 PM »
Unlocked.

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7788
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2014, 05:28:06 AM »
Another old puzzle that's to be moved up.

Offline 4popoid

  • *
  • Posts: 4621
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 679
  • Also sprach Zarathustra
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2014, 04:29:12 PM »
From continental Europe?

Offline pguillem

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 4161
  • Country: ca
  • Puzzle Points 533
  • Designer
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2014, 04:37:07 PM »
From Belgium ?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62712
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2014, 04:46:33 PM »
That's what I just wanted to ask.  ;D
Is it a FN?

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7788
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2014, 05:52:54 AM »
Well...I think I must apologyze, but I'm afraid my source is wrong.
I had some doubts...but I hoped that a Pro' would have solved them giving the answer I was waiting for.
Now, this answer has not come yet, and so I made some research more getting the convinction that my source is wrong.
The truck is not an FN, and not from Belgium.
I have to lock it again for 58_spider, because my first answer was wrong...the truck is french and from one of the marque he mentioned. Sorry!

Offline pguillem

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 4161
  • Country: ca
  • Puzzle Points 533
  • Designer
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2014, 04:41:39 PM »
A strange beast indeed.

Offline Bill Murray

  • *
  • Posts: 1942
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 277
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2014, 11:35:23 AM »


Edit:  My sincere apologies, I did not see the lock from 04 September.  I have tried to delete the post but do not see a command to do so.

Bill
« Last Edit: September 07, 2014, 11:48:29 AM by Bill Murray »
Cheers
Bill

Offline Bill Murray

  • *
  • Posts: 1942
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 277
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2014, 05:17:15 PM »
With total respect, can this one be unlocked after 4 days?
Bill
Cheers
Bill

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7788
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2014, 03:22:13 AM »
I think you're absolutely right....unlocked.

Offline Bill Murray

  • *
  • Posts: 1942
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 277
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2014, 03:39:43 AM »
Thanks....

Unfortunately, I could not find a year or model, but it is a Latil truck that was in use in Spain.

Below is the original photo.

Bill
Cheers
Bill

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7788
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2014, 03:47:14 AM »
Ok...that was not so difficult after my post from Sept. 4th
....I have to lock it again for 58_spider, because my first answer was wrong...the truck is french and from one of the marque he mentioned. Sorry!
So, I give you a 24 hours lock to add something else about the model and year.

Offline Bill Murray

  • *
  • Posts: 1942
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 277
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2014, 05:07:36 AM »
According to the site where I found the photo, this truck had been modified from the original which makes identification more difficult.

The best I can offer you is the model H14 A1 B5 which was built from 1948 to 1954.

If that is not correct, please unlock the puzzle and give someone else a chance.

Bill
Cheers
Bill

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7788
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-411
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2014, 05:16:44 AM »
I agree with your identification, so the point is your.   I had this picture in my archive, and I took it from a site I can't find again, where it was said to be a Pegaso-Latil;  but then I found no informations about a partnership between Pegaso and Latil.  Does someone know more?

Offline Bill Murray

  • *
  • Posts: 1942
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 277
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Solved TGF-411: Latil H14 A1 B5, 1948, probably coachbuilt in Spain
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2014, 05:29:52 AM »
According to the site where I found the photo, there were two trucks under discussion and the translation from Spanish was not very good.  However, I believe both of the trucks had their original engines replaced and one of them received a Pegaso replacement motor.  This was also discussed I believe as the reason for some of the body modifications.

I do know that replacing older petrol engines with Pegaso diesel engines was quite popular in Spain up into the 1950's.
Barrieros engines were also popular replacement engines.

Thanks for the point, Fabrizio.

Bill
Cheers
Bill