Author Topic: Solved TGF-323: Borgward B 1500 by Hermanos Bolado, Guinea Eq. 1963 (Read 1193 times)

targhediferro · « **on:** December 31, 2013, 04:43:07 AM »

Quite easy to identify the base of this vehicle...but not so easy to get the coachbuilder, and both of them are requested to earn a point.

targhediferro · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2014, 07:07:55 AM »

Up to Porfressionals.

Wendax · « **Reply #2 on:** January 15, 2014, 07:36:39 AM »

Borgward B 1500, that's the easy part.
South American coachbuilder?

targhediferro · « **Reply #3 on:** January 15, 2014, 07:52:48 AM »

Of course Borward B 1500, but not South american coachbuilder.

Wendax · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2014, 08:18:32 AM »

Spanish coachbuilder?

targhediferro · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2014, 08:48:39 AM »

The coachbuilder has spanish origin, but this Borgward was not built in Spain.

Wendax · « **Reply #6 on:** January 15, 2014, 08:50:51 AM »

But built in Europe?

targhediferro · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2014, 10:51:01 AM »

Not built in Europe.

AlexFrance · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2014, 11:02:40 AM »

Africa?

targhediferro · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2014, 12:50:16 PM »

Yes!!! It have been built in Africa.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2014, 02:09:58 PM »

Entonces, Spanish Morocco??

Bill

pguillem · « **Reply #11 on:** January 15, 2014, 03:02:01 PM »

Looking for "autocar" instead of bus, I found this : microbus. Funny

Este "microbús" es un Borgward carrozado en Guinea Ecuatorial allá por el año 1.963 por unos cántabros que vivían allí, los Hermanos Bolado

targhediferro · « **Reply #12 on:** January 15, 2014, 04:11:24 PM »

Quote from: pguillem on January 15, 2014, 03:02:01 PM

Looking for "autocar" instead of bus, I found this : microbus. Funny

Este "microbús" es un Borgward carrozado en Guinea Ecuatorial allá por el año 1.963 por unos cántabros que vivían allí, los Hermanos Bolado

That's what I have...well found! Does anybody know something more about these brothers? Did they realize other vehicles?

pguillem · « **Reply #13 on:** January 15, 2014, 04:51:31 PM »

I'm not sure that this bus was bodied by Hermanos Bolado. If my understanding of spanish is correct, they were citizens of Cantabria and this bus was built for them by an Equatorial Guinean coachbuilder. Maybe a spanish-speaking Autopuzzler could help.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #14 on:** January 15, 2014, 05:32:33 PM »

pguillem has hit on an interesting problem here.

Spanish is my third language, after English and Swedish, and I have always had a problem with the word "por".

There are two critical translations here, "for" and "by".

Personally, my translation would be "for" the "Hermanos Bolado" because of the context of the posting in the site I think all of us are referring to.

I am still Googling to find something on the "Familia Bolado" in Equatorial Guinea but with no success so far.

In any case, and without trying to be Politically Incorrect, the passengers were not native citizens of that country in my opinion and were the children of the then ruling Spaniards. I had the same experience living in Peru, where there was the "English
School", the "American School", the "German School" and so forth where in that case the ExPats sent their children to schools more aligned with their home country.

I think the point is well awarded, but perhaps we need a few more details.

Bill

ropat53 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 15, 2014, 05:55:08 PM »

The translation would be: "This small bus is a Borgward that was bodied in Ecuatorial Guinea around 1963 by some Cantabrians that lived there, the Bolado brothers."

In Spanish: "Por" means by and "para" means for.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #16 on:** January 15, 2014, 05:59:52 PM »

Carrying on.......................

It seems that in Spain, the Bolado family is, and has been, in the body building business for many years.

Unfortunately, I cannot make a connection between the Bolado business in Spain and any business they may have had in Guinea but it seems that there may be a possibility that we have the right coach builder.

Good puzzle!!

Bill

Bill Murray · « **Reply #17 on:** January 15, 2014, 06:04:40 PM »

Gracias, Robbie, as you know my Spanish is rather rusty by now.

So it seems we can agree on the name of the coach builder, but can we get any more details???

I believe this is the only vehicle we have seen from this country.

Bill

pnegyesi · « **Reply #18 on:** January 16, 2014, 01:26:27 AM »

I have found another caption:
(1963) Bata, la guagua del cole de las monjas. Un camión Borgward, carrozado de madera en la carpintería de los Hnos. Bolado (Ctra. del Aeropuerto)

pnegyesi · « **Reply #19 on:** January 16, 2014, 01:31:31 AM »

If we are interested, one of our Spanish-speaking members should contact Mar Bolado, who was born in Guinea in 1966. She seems to be a descendant of the brothers who built this body

ropat53 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 16, 2014, 01:32:41 PM »

With this new information:
"(1963) Bata, la guagua del cole de las monjas. Un camión Borgward, carrozado de madera en la carpintería de los Hnos. Bolado (Ctra. del Aeropuerto)"

"(1963)Bata, the small bus from the Nun's school. A Borgward truck with a wood body made at the Bolado Brother's carpentry shop (Airport Road)."

We now know, the picture was taken in Bata Equatorial Guinea in 1963, the small bus belonged to a school run by Catholic Nuns. We also know the body was made with wood at the Hnos. Bolado carpentry shop.

After Equatorial Guinea's independence from Spain in 1968, the Bolado family stayed on until 2000 when they moved to Cantabria.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #21 on:** January 16, 2014, 02:59:34 PM »

Great detective work and thanks Robbie!!
Bill

targhediferro · « **Reply #22 on:** January 17, 2014, 09:45:07 AM »

Thank you very much...I suppose we won't find other cars realized by this "factory"...perhaps a Woody elephant cabin.

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