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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2012, 07:01:03 AM »
powered by Helios-sourced engine?
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2012, 11:58:40 AM »
No Helios connection as far as I know.
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2014, 03:08:22 AM »
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2014, 09:39:24 AM »
Was it Fafnir-engined?
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2014, 10:55:43 AM »
No, the engine supplier came from Berlin.
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2014, 11:06:54 AM »
Is it a Standard with Hanriod engine?
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2014, 11:12:54 AM »
Utilitas?
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2014, 11:18:26 AM »
Did it feature a Sun engine by Sun Motorengesellschaft Jeannin/Berlin?

And was it built before or after WW1?
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2014, 11:28:14 AM »
None of the above guesses are correct.

It was built after WW I.
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2014, 12:06:04 PM »
Is it an Alan, built in Bamberg with Siemens engines?
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2014, 12:25:54 PM »
Not Alan, not a Siemens engine.
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2014, 12:32:19 PM »
engine from Paul Baer?
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2014, 12:34:57 PM »
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2014, 12:35:09 PM »
 Keitel Luftstromwagen ?
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2014, 12:35:55 PM »
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2014, 06:50:07 PM »
I think this might be Engelbert Zaschka's collapsible (Faltauto) car from 1929.

Strike that.  Zaschka's collapsible car was a three wheeler.  I still think it is a collapsible car, but perhaps one by Hans Seehase from 1921.
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2014, 02:13:57 AM »
As you found out yourself, your Zaschka guess is wrong.

Hans Seehase is one of the names I was looking for. You certainly found the right car and the same source I have. But I think there is an error in that article. At first, the car doesn't look very collapsible to me, especially if you compare it with Zaschka's and Onnasch's cars. Furthermore, there is a strong connection between Seehase and another man, of whom it is known that he built a car of similar technical data in 1921.

Locked for you to tell me the missing name.
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2014, 03:56:02 AM »
I'm not sure what name you are looking for.  That the name Paul Baer relates to the puzzle car engine has already been established, so I can only assume it is not Paul Baer who produced some cars in the period 1921-1924.  A Baer engine was also used by Hans Keitel in his designs, but that name has also been mentioned and ruled out.

In 1921 Hans Seehase worked for Joseph Sablatnig, whose factory produced aircraft.  I believe that Sablatig was later involved  in producing some cars, but I don't know if they had Baer engines, and, in any case, this was after 1921.

Also, some cars (Pawi) were produced in 1921 by Paul Victor Wilkem, but I don't know if he had any relationship to Hans Seehase, nor if his cars utilized Baer engines.     
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Re: Wendax 761
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2014, 04:26:59 AM »
As usual with multiple choice, the correct answer is the one that is strictly ruled out. Joseph Sablatnig is the name I was looking for. Hans Seehase was employed by Sablatnig, and Sablatnig did build one single 11 PS Baer-engined prototype car in 1921. It would be too much of a coincidence that Sablatnig and Seehase each built a car of their own, especially of similar layout. And as there is no mention of a Seehase car in literature I think the puzzle car is the Sablatnig prototype of 1921.

After more than one year, I call this puzzle solved and award one more point to you.
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