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Solved TGF-300: Multiple quiz Car and Men, which link?
« on: December 05, 2013, 03:02:16 PM »
For my quiz number 300 I want to offer you something different, hoping you'll have fun from it.
Here you are eleven cars and eleven men (10 men and a woman); every car is linked to one men, some links are easy when you recognize the car and the man, other links are less evident.
So, your task is to correctly identify cars and man, to form eleven couples revealing which is the link.
Every correct answer will earn you a point.
No limit for Rookies, maximum of three points for each Expert.
Good luck.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2014, 05:36:22 PM by targhediferro »

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2013, 03:10:13 PM »
And the men.

Sorry, someone perhaps will note that a man has disappeared and another one has arrived;  I had wrongly attached the picture of Gastone Brilli Peri who wasn't linked to any car. 
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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2013, 01:42:40 PM »
I think it's fair to let everybody try to get these points...so, up.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2013, 03:22:00 PM »
h is the Rastrojero pickup, powered by a Borgward engine; 5 is Carl F.W.Borgward.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2013, 03:36:48 PM »
First attempt, and first point! The answer is absolutely right. A point to Wendax.

A: -Lanchester 1922 and F.W.Lanchester (2)
B: -Alfa Romeo 800 Carr.Macchi and F.Bertoni (4)
C: -Donnet 1933 and T.Pigozzi (9)
D: -Fiat 8V Zagato and Carlo Salamano (7)
E: -Karmann Cheetah and E.M.Remarque (3)
F: -Willys Jeep and J.W.Frazer (11)
G: -Radwan by Stefan Prailowsky and Mieczysław Debicki (1)
H: -Rastrojero pick-up and Carl F.W.Borgward (5)
I: -Bonetti Circus Renault Estafette Pourtout and L.A.Krieger (10)
L: -Saab 92 and Greta Molander (6)
M: -Scat and Amedee Gordini (8)
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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2013, 04:45:30 PM »
d: Fiat 8V Zagato - 7: Carlo Salamano, chief test driver at Fiat at that time

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2013, 05:05:08 PM »
L: The remains of a Saab 92 - 6: Greta Molander, a famous Saab rallye driver

I think I have to stop now.  ;)

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2013, 05:07:54 PM »
a: looks like a Lanchester to me, this could match up with 2: Frederick W. Lanchester, one of the brothers that started Lanchester.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2013, 05:46:28 PM »
m: is a 1914 SCAT 22-32, that won the Targa Florio that year. I'm hoping that links to 4:? a young Ernesto Ceirano who started SCAT, and was the driver in 1914.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2013, 07:49:33 PM »
Car e is the ItalDesign VW Karmmann-Ghia Cheetah.
I can't see a picture of Wilhelm Karmann or Giugiaro so is man no. 4 a young Luis Segre, who would go on to own Ghia, so the connection is Ghia?
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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2013, 09:46:42 PM »
F: Jeep Willys and 11 Joseph W. Frazer, Willys-Overland President from 1939-1944

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2013, 10:06:49 PM »
i: Clown car based on Renalut 12 and 8 Amédée Gordini

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2013, 04:09:50 AM »
d: Fiat 8V Zagato - 7: Carlo Salamano, chief test driver at Fiat at that time
Correct, point number two.
L: The remains of a Saab 92 - 6: Greta Molander, a famous Saab rallye driver
I think I have to stop now.  ;)
Correct and point number three...yes, sorry, you must stop now.
a: looks like a Lanchester to me, this could match up with 2: Frederick W. Lanchester, one of the brothers that started Lanchester.
Correct, first point for Craig.
m: is a 1914 SCAT 22-32, that won the Targa Florio that year. I'm hoping that links to 4:? a young Ernesto Ceirano who started SCAT, and was the driver in 1914.
m is a Scat, but 4 is not E.Ceirano.
Car e is the ItalDesign VW Karmmann-Ghia Cheetah.
I can't see a picture of Wilhelm Karmann or Giugiaro so is man no. 4 a young Luis Segre, who would go on to own Ghia, so the connection is Ghia?
E is the Karmann Cheetah, but 4 is not Segre.
F: Jeep Willys and 11 Joseph W. Frazer, Willys-Overland President from 1939-1944
Correct, first point for Ropat.
i: Clown car based on Renalut 12 and 8 Amédée Gordini
Renault base, not 12, but wrong link.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2013, 07:53:02 AM »
I think Car C could be a Donnet from the early 1930s. When Donnet stopped trading, their factory at Nanterre was bought by Simca. Person 9 is Henri Pigozzi who founded Simca, and ran it for nearly thirty years.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2013, 09:26:52 AM »
i - Hoover Bonetti Circus Renault Estafette - and 8 - Jean Redele, son of Renault dealer, and took over his father's business. Worked with Renault. Alpine founder.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2013, 10:02:12 AM »
I think Car C could be a Donnet from the early 1930s. When Donnet stopped trading, their factory at Nanterre was bought by Simca. Person 9 is Henri Pigozzi who founded Simca, and ran it for nearly thirty years.
That's what I wanted, a point for Tom_I.
i - Hoover Bonetti Circus Renault Estafette - and 8 - Jean Redele, son of Renault dealer, and took over his father's business. Worked with Renault. Alpine founder.
Correct identification of the car, even not complete, but not the man.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2013, 02:17:34 PM »
Car e is the ItalDesign VW Karmmann-Ghia Cheetah.
I can't see a picture of Wilhelm Karmann or Giugiaro so is man no. 4 a young Luis Segre, who would go on to own Ghia, so the connection is Ghia?
E is the Karmann Cheetah, but 4 is not Segre.

Maybe man no. 8 is Wilhelm Karmann, who founded the coachbuilder that this car is named after?
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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2013, 03:05:47 PM »
No, man number 8 is not W.Karmann.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2013, 01:44:21 AM »
Are any of the men shown apart of the Ceirano family?

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2013, 02:55:55 AM »
No Ceirano's family member.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2013, 12:44:57 PM »
m: SCAT and 8 Amédéé Gordini who in 1918 built a record car for Giuseppe Moschini, on a SCAT chassis with an Hispano Suiza engine, the car was driven by Tazio Nuvolari.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2013, 03:12:10 PM »
m: SCAT and 8 Amédéé Gordini who in 1918 built a record car for Giuseppe Moschini, on a SCAT chassis with an Hispano Suiza engine, the car was driven by Tazio Nuvolari.
That's right, and the second point for Ropat.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2013, 03:29:55 PM »
Is number 4 a very young Enzo Ferrari?

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2013, 04:49:07 PM »
Is number 4 a very young Enzo Ferrari?
No he isn't E.Ferrari.

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Re: TGF-300
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2013, 06:21:58 PM »
No, man number 8 is not W.Karmann.

Sticking with the same tack though, is Man no.3 Sergio Sartorelli, who designed the original VW Karmann-Ghia, hence the connection with Car e?
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