Author Topic: Solved: Wendax 1140 - Adler Primus by Rupflin, designed by Carl August Bembé (Read 1540 times)

Wendax · « **Reply #25 on:** February 04, 2014, 03:50:33 PM »

The time is right (although not for a Ford Eifel which appeared in 1935), but the car is not a Ford and a bit larger than the Eifel.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #26 on:** February 04, 2014, 04:26:32 PM »

Thank you for your overly kind answer. I typed the totally wrong name in there.
I meant a Ford Rheinland, the larger car which began production in 1934.

So, in any case we made a bit of progress.

German, ca. 1933/4 and not a Ford.

Onward and upward.

Bill

Wendax · « **Reply #27 on:** February 04, 2014, 04:32:50 PM »

The base car is not as big as a Rheinland.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #28 on:** February 04, 2014, 04:40:47 PM »

Adler Primus, coach work by Karmann?

Bill

Wendax · « **Reply #29 on:** February 04, 2014, 04:53:49 PM »

That's where things are getting complicated. It is an Adler Primus, but I don't know which coachbuilder did eventually build this body. I just know the person responsible for the design. And he is usually not known in connection with automobiles.

His name is the one I'm after.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #30 on:** February 04, 2014, 05:37:57 PM »

Sigh.........

Well, Amigo, I don't know where to go from here. I suspect the image is not on the Internet, I spent two hours Googling
Adler Primus after I decided that was the base car and came up with nothing. Closest I got was the Karmann solution which was very similar but not the same vehicle.

By the Way, the ID clue I used was the wheel type which is pretty much exclusive to Adler.

Bill

Wendax · « **Reply #31 on:** February 05, 2014, 02:03:30 AM »

I took the picture from the net, but it is just part of an old magazine snippet, and you won't find it by searching for Adler Primus.

I'll supply some hints when this puzzle will have had its time on the Pro board.

Wendax · « **Reply #32 on:** February 12, 2014, 02:24:51 AM »

up again

4popoid · « **Reply #33 on:** February 12, 2014, 02:37:39 AM »

The Adler Primus was designed by Otto Göckeritz, but since you have said that the designer of this Primus (from about 1933) was not generally associated with cars, and Otto Göckeritz was a long time designer for Adler, I must assume that he is ruled out. A person not usually associated with cars was the architect Walter Gropius, who purportedly worked on a couple of Adler Standard 6 show cars in 1930. Although I can find no connection between Gropius and the Adler Primus, the time frame is about right, so: Is the name you are looking for Walter Gropius?

Wendax · « **Reply #34 on:** February 12, 2014, 03:11:47 AM »

Not Gropius, but a man of the same profession and one of Gropius' protégés.

targhediferro · « **Reply #35 on:** February 12, 2014, 04:10:04 AM »

Is it by Laszlo Moholy-Nagy?

Wendax · « **Reply #36 on:** February 12, 2014, 04:27:51 AM »

No, not that famous, I guess.

João · « **Reply #37 on:** February 12, 2014, 07:29:22 AM »

I believe it´s the same automobile : Adler Cabriolet from 1932-33. Karosserie-Fabrik Eugen Rupflin Jr., München.

Wendax · « **Reply #38 on:** February 12, 2014, 07:49:47 AM »

Beautiful photo! That is the same car. As I said before, I didn't know the coachbuilder. Now I do, and the background certainly is Munich.
Locked for you to have a guess at the designer.

João · « **Reply #39 on:** February 12, 2014, 08:28:30 AM »

Thanks. Marcel Breuer?

Wendax · « **Reply #40 on:** February 12, 2014, 08:30:45 AM »

Not him. Locked for one more guess.

Wendax · « **Reply #41 on:** February 12, 2014, 08:44:17 AM »

If it helps, here is one of his car-related architectural works:

João · « **Reply #42 on:** February 13, 2014, 08:55:50 AM »

I can´t find

Unlock it please!

Wendax · « **Reply #43 on:** February 13, 2014, 09:00:42 AM »

Unlocked and open for all again.

I think the identification of the coachbuilder will earn you a point anyway, João.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #44 on:** February 13, 2014, 09:08:01 AM »

Hi Guys:

First, I agree that Joao should get a point for the coach builder also.

As to the designer, I spent about two hours yesterday "cruising the Autobahns" city by city in the period 1936-1940 on Google, looking for filling station photos.
I finally found your photo in the Frankfurt area search if I remember correctly.

In any case, the filling station was designed by Carl August Bembe. According to another search of his name and works, he designed all sorts of buildings and also designed boats for Maybach and autos for Opel and Adler

Sadly, I cannot prove this with photos as all I got on Google so far was buildings but the article I am taking this from was quite specific that he did do auto designs and did do them for Adler.

I hope this is the name you are looking for.

Bill

Wendax · « **Reply #45 on:** February 13, 2014, 09:42:13 AM »

Well done, Bill, that was a hard one. Carl August Bembé designed this Adler. I'll add the original snippet tonight.

A well-earned point each for you and João.

João · « **Reply #46 on:** February 13, 2014, 10:19:01 AM »

Thank you Wendax! And congrats Bill

Wendax · « **Reply #47 on:** February 13, 2014, 11:24:44 AM »

My source from a 1930s book:

Wendax · « **Reply #48 on:** July 24, 2014, 03:42:05 AM »

Another picture of this nice car:

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