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Solved NIC#211 - 1926 Invicta 3-litre of Violet Cordery
« on: June 01, 2014, 03:08:10 PM »
Year and car please.
This puzzle requires work - the caption on the photo was incorrect where I found it.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2014, 05:38:01 AM by nicanary »
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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2014, 06:22:42 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2014, 05:19:19 PM »
Italian car maybe?

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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2014, 05:49:03 PM »
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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2014, 04:58:52 PM »
Spanish?

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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2014, 06:34:14 PM »
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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2014, 07:08:27 PM »
RHD - British?
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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2014, 05:39:44 AM »
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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2014, 05:39:31 AM »
I'll bump this one, it's too easy for the Pros. Well-known British marque - this actual car was used for record-breaking.
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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2014, 07:35:16 AM »
Vauxhall ?

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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2014, 07:41:52 AM »
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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2014, 12:13:34 PM »
I've it as a 1926 INVICTA

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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2014, 01:54:20 PM »
Found it as an Invicta as well, but from 1928 and it's a 3-litre Open Tourer, auctioned in Goodwood last year

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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2014, 05:31:53 PM »
The book where I've found the exact picture doesn't specify clearly if it's a 2.5 or a 3 litre, the 3 litre was introduced along 1926, but this one, whit thinner wheels  looks to me that it's one of the initial 2.5 and the body is described as "occasional four-seater".

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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2014, 06:48:27 PM »
Gentlemen, I will have to investigate this further before I award points. I was under the impression that this car was the 1926 3-litre of Violet Cordery with which she set many international records. The leather straps were used to retain a streamlined undershield, and I assumed that there was only one made in this style. I will check further and let you know tomorrow.

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Re: NIC #211
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2014, 05:35:44 AM »
I have now checked as many records as possible, and have come to a conclusion. The puzzle photo is shown on a well-known website as a 1931 Invicta 4.5-litre, which it clearly and obviously is not. It is without doubt a 3-litre, and is bodied in exactly the same style as the specially-prepared car used by Violet Cordery to establish world records at Monza, Montlhery and Brooklands. I'm convinced that the puzzle photo is that actual car, which had a lightweight fabric body, and the undershield to minimise drag at speed.

The 3-litre was built between 1926 and 1929, and the other car sold by Bonhams is, as claimed, a 1928 model. Reading through the sale information, I note that the owner had a new body built in the 1990s IN THE STYLE OF THE CORDERY CAR. So it's not the original car, which I'm sure was a one-off. I wanted to check that Invicta didn't sell any "replica" cars, but can find no evidence.

So the point goes to "luisps". Sorry "mekubb", but he posted before you, and I would have locked it for him at that stage.

(Violet Cordery was the sister-in-law of Invicta founder Noel Macklin. Sex sells.)
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Re: Solved NIC#211 - 1926 Invicta 3-litre of Violet Cordery
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2014, 06:20:13 AM »
Thank you NIC