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Solved -PJ602- Theodore P. "Ted" Hal in a prototype of his Convaircar (Mod.116?)
« on: April 02, 2014, 03:44:24 PM »
Who is that?
And what car is it?
1 point if you know!
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2014, 03:54:46 AM »
Is one of the persons Powel Crosley?
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2014, 03:55:45 AM »
I have just one name..and it's not him.  :-\
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2014, 03:59:54 AM »
Is the car a Crosley - maybe a prototype?
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2014, 04:14:51 AM »
I don't know the car. I have a theory about but that's all.
The man was linked to a specific car, but not a Crosley.
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2014, 04:51:53 AM »
Is one of the persons connected with the Davis Divan?
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2014, 05:17:32 AM »
I don't think.
There was a slight connection with Crolsey, after all.
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2014, 02:54:49 AM »
any connections to Playboy?
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2014, 03:33:28 AM »
Not that I'm aware of.
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2014, 04:36:57 AM »
Was one of these gentlemen from Italy?
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2014, 05:31:24 AM »
Nope..he is from the States.
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2014, 05:38:07 AM »
How about the other guy?  :D
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2014, 05:50:52 AM »
I don't know but I strongly believe he is not Italian.
The kind of vehicle should lead you to that man  ;)
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2014, 05:57:19 AM »
Is it a 'flying car' of some sort?
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2014, 05:58:03 AM »
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on April 12, 2014, 05:57:19 AM
Is it a 'flying car' of some sort?
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2014, 06:09:57 AM »
Is one of them Theodore P. "Ted" Hall ?
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2014, 06:34:17 AM »
Yes!
I can't find the right car.
I know he made several prototypes (and one was Crosley-engined) but can't find the one that matches with the car of the picture.
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2014, 02:24:08 PM »
I think I can ID it. Still locked?
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2014, 03:51:05 PM »
Yes, the puzzle is solved now. You found the man and the car.
I'd like to see that prototype, because it looks so different from the others.
Do you know more about?
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2014, 04:09:42 AM »
The size and shape of the windows are consistent with the drawings on Hall's patent documents. Perhaps it was an early prototype of the Model 116. 
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2014, 06:54:03 AM »
Perfect! I had several patents but couldn't find this!
Well done, point for you.

BTW: is there anyone who can explain the relations between T. Hall's Convair, built in 1946 as Model 116 and 1947 as Model 118 (but there was a prototype Model 111 around 1945) for Consolidated Vultee Aircraft Corporation in San Diego, California  and T. Hall's Aerocar, built in 1946 for Southern Aircraft Corp. (SAC) a division of Portable Products Corp in Texas?
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2014, 07:57:42 AM »
The 111 "Air Car" was much more of a conventional airplane, though it had somewhat coupe-like styling.

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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2014, 08:25:14 AM »
Yes, but both the Aerocar from Texas of 1946 and the Convaircar Model 116 of the same year had a Franklin engine and were built by T. Hall.
Here's another 116:
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Re: PJ - 602 - Who....is that?
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2014, 11:37:05 AM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 13, 2014, 06:54:03 AM
Perfect! I had several patents but couldn't find this!
Well done, point for you.

BTW: is there anyone who can explain the relations between T. Hall's Convair, built in 1946 as Model 116 and 1947 as Model 118 (but there was a prototype Model 111 around 1945) for Consolidated Vultee Aircraft Corporation in San Diego, California  and T. Hall's Aerocar, built in 1946 for Southern Aircraft Corp. (SAC) a division of Portable Products Corp in Texas?

It will remain a mistery, I guess.

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Re: Solved -PJ602- Theodore P. "Ted" Hal in a prototype of his Convaircar (Mod.116?)
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2014, 05:33:15 AM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 13, 2014, 06:54:03 AM
Perfect! I had several patents but couldn't find this!
Well done, point for you.

BTW: is there anyone who can explain the relations between T. Hall's Convair, built in 1946 as Model 116 and 1947 as Model 118 (but there was a prototype Model 111 around 1945) for Consolidated Vultee Aircraft Corporation in San Diego, California  and T. Hall's Aerocar, built in 1946 for Southern Aircraft Corp. (SAC) a division of Portable Products Corp in Texas?
I believe T. Hall's Aerocar vehicle, built in 1946 for Southern Aircraft Corp, was called 'Roadable'...and there was the Airway, built by T.Hall for Ayrway Motors, Sand DIego, California....
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