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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1025 on: January 13, 2014, 05:09:58 PM »
Finally, an easy one!   ;)

LA POINTE SIMPLEX — Hancock, Michigan — (1903) — The La Pointe Simplex was built in Hancock by the Hodge Iron Company, makers of brass and iron castings. It had been designed by C.J. Costelle and N.M. Benson of Chicago. Charles J. Hodge put up the money for the building of the prototype. It was a small 8 hp runabout with shaft drive, selective sliding gear transmission, wood wheels and a Mercedes-type radiator. Its projected price tag was $750. Local Houghton County capitalists were interested in the project, and it was announced that if the “sample proves satisfactory,” Charles Hodge would organize a company for manufacture. No such company ensued, and no reason ever was given for the curious name of the car.



Perfect!
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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1026 on: January 13, 2014, 06:39:19 PM »
Not that.

I'd better go to #15761. Thank you.
 

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1027 on: January 14, 2014, 04:20:41 AM »
8810, please
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1028 on: January 14, 2014, 07:20:36 AM »
Not that.

I'd better go to #15761. Thank you.
Vincent Engineers (Stevenage) Ltd, Stevenage, Hertfordshire built a 3-wheeler in 1955.
15761:VLACHOS


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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1029 on: January 14, 2014, 07:27:54 AM »
8810, please

8810: LAIDLAW ELECTRIC

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1030 on: January 14, 2014, 10:52:07 AM »
Vincent Engineers (Stevenage) Ltd, Stevenage, Hertfordshire built a 3-wheeler in 1955.

This company was what I had in mind with my first guess.  On 3-wheelers.com site, the 1955 Vincent prototype is associated with it

"The Vincent motorcycle company was founded in the late 1920s by Phil Vincent and it was in 1932 that their first 3-wheeler, “The Vincent Bantam” was first introduced. Powered by a 293cc SV JAP engine (later to be replaced by a 250cc Villiers engine) the vehicle was a 2.5 cwt delivery van which unusually used a car type seat and steering wheel rather than a motorcycle saddle and handlebars favoured by some 3-wheelers produced by motorcycle manufacturers. The standard van was priced at £57-10- 0 though for a extra £5-10- 0 a windscreen and hood could be purchased.  Production of the Bantam ceased in the mid 1930s.

In 1954 / 1955 in Stevenage. (UK) a one off prototype Vincent 3-wheeler was produced. The vehicle was powered by a Vincent Rapide 998cc engine and was unofficially named “Polyphemus*” by its previous owner Roy Harper. Before this the vehicle had the name “Locomotion. The names were as a result of the single large cooling opening in the nose panel. This duct ran from the orifice at the front of the body, directly onto the front cylinder of the engine.  Additional vents at the side of the Vincent helped cool down the engine further
."

Anyway.

15761:VLACHOS

I just found the Tri-Phibian, an amphibious air-powered venicle which couls also fly.  It was created in 1935 by Constantinos Vlachos, who had great problems with the US patent office.

Last number : #16388.  Thanks a lot !

Patrick

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1031 on: January 14, 2014, 11:50:21 AM »
8810: LAIDLAW ELECTRIC


Pass

8861, please
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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1032 on: January 14, 2014, 12:31:23 PM »
Vincent Engineers (Stevenage) Ltd, Stevenage, Hertfordshire built a 3-wheeler in 1955.

This company was what I had in mind with my first guess.  On 3-wheelers.com site, the 1955 Vincent prototype is associated with it

"The Vincent motorcycle company was founded in the late 1920s by Phil Vincent and it was in 1932 that their first 3-wheeler, “The Vincent Bantam” was first introduced. Powered by a 293cc SV JAP engine (later to be replaced by a 250cc Villiers engine) the vehicle was a 2.5 cwt delivery van which unusually used a car type seat and steering wheel rather than a motorcycle saddle and handlebars favoured by some 3-wheelers produced by motorcycle manufacturers. The standard van was priced at £57-10- 0 though for a extra £5-10- 0 a windscreen and hood could be purchased.  Production of the Bantam ceased in the mid 1930s.

In 1954 / 1955 in Stevenage. (UK) a one off prototype Vincent 3-wheeler was produced. The vehicle was powered by a Vincent Rapide 998cc engine and was unofficially named “Polyphemus*” by its previous owner Roy Harper. Before this the vehicle had the name “Locomotion. The names were as a result of the single large cooling opening in the nose panel. This duct ran from the orifice at the front of the body, directly onto the front cylinder of the engine.  Additional vents at the side of the Vincent helped cool down the engine further
."

Anyway.

15761:VLACHOS

I just found the Tri-Phibian, an amphibious air-powered venicle which couls also fly.  It was created in 1935 by Constantinos Vlachos, who had great problems with the US patent office.

Last number : #16388.  Thanks a lot !

Patrick
Now I see, but in your reply there was not a single line about 'Vincent Engineers', 'Stevenage' or '1955' that were some of the key words I associated with Vincent (2).
In my index there was nothing about 'Bantam' ' Phil Vincent' or a '293cc JAP engine'. There was just the 1000cc one....
...BUT...
you are right, in my HD I had them togheter (but I can't double check there too!) and my source, the Beaulieu, reports briefly that Phil Vincent was the founder.

Since you knew it, I'll restore your correct score: +10 + 21 +6.
And with Vlachos, +22 for you. Sorry about that.
16388:WOLF (1)



 

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1033 on: January 14, 2014, 12:36:30 PM »
8810: LAIDLAW ELECTRIC


Pass

8861, please
James Laidlaw from Jersey City, New Jersey, built a motor sleigh in 1903.

8861:LANCASTER MOTOR (2)

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1034 on: January 14, 2014, 12:44:10 PM »
Since you knew it, I'll restore your correct score: +10 + 21 +6.
And with Vlachos, +22 for you. Sorry about that.
16388:WOLF (1)

Thank you.  May I have the first clue for 16388:WOLF (1) ?

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1035 on: January 14, 2014, 06:04:23 PM »
I'm back with #5713 - a jackpot either for me or for one of the remaining players :D

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1036 on: January 15, 2014, 04:04:14 AM »
8861:LANCASTER MOTOR (2)

I hope it's this one  :)

From the 1907 Olympia Industrial Vehicle Show:

Lancaster Motor Garage. Lancaster Gate W, Stand 63

This firm exhibits three vehicles of the smaller class, and a class that is destined to become a very large one. That is, it is no novice at the business is shown by one of the cars, which has been running for some 18 months, doing the firm's own work as a demonstration van. It has an 8 h.p. single-cylinder De Dion engine, and a capacity of about 7 cwt. The next machine is of the same power, but has a two cylinder Gnome engine, and is fitted with a neat and capacious box body suitable for parcels, travellers' samples, and so forth. Lastly, there is an open trolley with a four cylinder motor, and having a capacity of about 12 cwt. It is well adapted for milk traffic and similar work. All these cars have s cardan shaft drive and accumulator ignition., though magneto ignition can be substituted if required.

A picture of the Lancaster Demonstration van is below (first pic).

Interestingly, in 1903, Mr. W.J. Masser, proprietor of Lancaster Motor Garage, was involved in another type of public exhibition, which put him in trouble with the law (next  two pics).

Next, also in 1903, the The Motor-Car Journal, illuminating the confusion that surrounded the proliferation of vehicle manufacturers in the early 20th century,  reported:

Some confusion having arisen as to the Lanchester car and the Lancaster Motor Garage, we are requested to state that the Lanchester Engine Company, Limited, and the Lancaster Motor Garage are in no way connected to each other.

Finally, Lancaster Motor Garage was also a sales agent for Mass and De Dion-Bouton automobiles (last pic)

PJ: The detailed and organized fashion in which you keep track of all these makes, more than 100 years later, is a most impressive achievement indeed!
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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1037 on: January 15, 2014, 04:27:36 AM »
Since you knew it, I'll restore your correct score: +10 + 21 +6.
And with Vlachos, +22 for you. Sorry about that.
16388:WOLF (1)

Thank you.  May I have the first clue for 16388:WOLF (1) ?
Around 1905.

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1038 on: January 15, 2014, 04:45:03 AM »
I'm back with #5713 - a jackpot either for me or for one of the remaining players :D
5713:FIANDRI

Remember, the list is 'moving' in the meantime...I'm updating it daily with new names  ;)
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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1039 on: January 15, 2014, 04:58:41 AM »
8861:LANCASTER MOTOR (2)

I hope it's this one  :)

From the 1907 Olympia Industrial Vehicle Show:

Lancaster Motor Garage. Lancaster Gate W, Stand 63

This firm exhibits three vehicles of the smaller class, and a class that is destined to become a very large one. That is, it is no novice at the business is shown by one of the cars, which has been running for some 18 months, doing the firm's own work as a demonstration van. It has an 8 h.p. single-cylinder De Dion engine, and a capacity of about 7 cwt. The next machine is of the same power, but has a two cylinder Gnome engine, and is fitted with a neat and capacious box body suitable for parcels, travellers' samples, and so forth. Lastly, there is an open trolley with a four cylinder motor, and having a capacity of about 12 cwt. It is well adapted for milk traffic and similar work. All these cars have s cardan shaft drive and accumulator ignition., though magneto ignition can be substituted if required.

A picture of the Lancaster Demonstration van is below (first pic).

Interestingly, in 1903, Mr. W.J. Masser, proprietor of Lancaster Motor Garage, was involved in another type of public exhibition, which put him in trouble with the law (next  two pics).

Next, also in 1903, the The Motor-Car Journal, illuminating the confusion that surrounded the proliferation of vehicle manufacturers in the early 20th century,  reported:

Some confusion having arisen as to the Lanchester car and the Lancaster Motor Garage, we are requested to state that the Lanchester Engine Company, Limited, and the Lancaster Motor Garage are in no way connected to each other.

Finally, Lancaster Motor Garage was also a sales agent for Mass and De Dion-Bouton automobiles (last pic)

PJ: The detailed and organized fashion in which you keep track of all these makes, more than 100 years later, is a most impressive achievement indeed!
Very, very interesting.
It's not the one I have but it was an interesting reading.

PS. Thank you, but I just collect other's work and make it easily available.



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Last number:5713:FIANDRI
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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1040 on: January 15, 2014, 05:55:02 AM »
It's not the one I have but it was an interesting reading.

Ugh. Here's the only Lancaster company automobile I can find:

Lancamobile
The James H. Lancaster Co.
New York, NY
1899-1901

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1041 on: January 15, 2014, 06:11:48 AM »
It's not the one I have but it was an interesting reading.

Ugh. Here's the only Lancaster company automobile I can find:

Lancamobile
The James H. Lancaster Co.
New York, NY
1899-1901


Not that...

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1042 on: January 15, 2014, 08:41:20 AM »
I guess I'll have to pass again.
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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1043 on: January 15, 2014, 12:03:16 PM »
May I have the first clue for 16388:WOLF (1) ?
Around 1905.

I just found Wolf Automobile Wilcox Motor Co., Minneapolis, Mn (1907-1909) If it's not this one, I suppose that I am finished, as it was my last guess.  Right ?

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1044 on: January 15, 2014, 01:57:42 PM »
I guess I'll have to pass again.
Lancaster Motor Company from Lancaster, New York was incorporated in 1910. Production is doubted.
May I have the first clue for 16388:WOLF (1) ?
Around 1905.

I just found Wolf Automobile Wilcox Motor Co., Minneapolis, Mn (1907-1909) If it's not this one, I suppose that I am finished, as it was my last guess.  Right ?
That should be Wolfe. Not that. You can ask for clues or leave it but it was your last number.  :-\

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1045 on: January 15, 2014, 02:21:38 PM »

That should be Wolfe. Not that. You can ask for clues or leave it but it was your last number.  :-\

That's what I found for Wolfe :

Wolfe

In 1906, car salesman Maurice Wolfe, joined the Wilcox Brothers in Minneapolis, MN, to form the H. E. Wilcox Motor Car Company in making the Wolfe automobile. They were either air-cooled or water-cooled four-cylinder engines with double-chained drive. 30 cars were made in 1907 and 153 in 1908. The name was changed to Wilcox


I it's not that, may I have another clue ?  Thanks

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1046 on: January 15, 2014, 02:31:21 PM »

That should be Wolfe. Not that. You can ask for clues or leave it but it was your last number.  :-\

That's what I found for Wolfe :

Wolfe

In 1906, car salesman Maurice Wolfe, joined the Wilcox Brothers in Minneapolis, MN, to form the H. E. Wilcox Motor Car Company in making the Wolfe automobile. They were either air-cooled or water-cooled four-cylinder engines with double-chained drive. 30 cars were made in 1907 and 153 in 1908. The name was changed to Wilcox


I it's not that, may I have another clue ?  Thanks
Yes, that is Wolfe but the one you pick was WOLF (1) and the date is just 1 year: around 1905.

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1047 on: January 15, 2014, 02:49:54 PM »
Yes, that is Wolfe but the one you pick was WOLF (1) and the date is just 1 year: around 1905.

Another clue ?

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1048 on: January 15, 2014, 02:52:26 PM »
Yes, that is Wolfe but the one you pick was WOLF (1) and the date is just 1 year: around 1905.

Another clue ?
It was American.

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Re: PJ - 586 - Are you ready for this?
« Reply #1049 on: January 15, 2014, 03:33:52 PM »
Yes, that is Wolfe but the one you pick was WOLF (1) and the date is just 1 year: around 1905.

Another clue ?
It was American.

Sorry, I can't find it. Thanks anyway.